What lights do you use for the long rides?
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For those who like the EL-500 the EL-530 is now out and is 50% brighter for about the same cost. Run time is a bit less but should still go all night without a battery change.
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Without laboring it too much... the effectiveness of a light really is determined by the optics that the light shines on and through (reflector and lens). This is where the German lights (B&M, Lumotech) come into their own, because despite the 3W halogen globe (or 2.5W if using a rear light as well), they have the optical technology to make the most of that output...
There was an interesting discussion I read recently on use of LEDs fitted to a convention light that originally used a halogen globe, giving the best of both worlds of battery life and optics. The LED needed a slight modification to fit, I believe.
There was an interesting discussion I read recently on use of LEDs fitted to a convention light that originally used a halogen globe, giving the best of both worlds of battery life and optics. The LED needed a slight modification to fit, I believe.
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Originally Posted by 8bit
I don't know if you can power a 3W LED from a hub generator (to full power). Since LEDs are either on or off, you'd need some circuitry with a capacitor and a microprocessor to be able to power-cycle the LED in short bursts so it stays 'on' even when the voltage from the generator drops. Conventional bulbs don't have the on/off problem, they just dim when the power drops. It's not an impossible problem to power an LED lamp off a hub, it's just a little cumbersome.
BTW, they make 5 Watt white LEDs now. https://www.theledlight.com/LuxeonLEDs.html Prepare to be blinded!
BTW, they make 5 Watt white LEDs now. https://www.theledlight.com/LuxeonLEDs.html Prepare to be blinded!
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The North American importer of SON and B&M, etc, has a new product on his website about an LED that can be connected up to any type of power source, from batteries at 6-18 volt and dynohubs, and a microprocessor, I think, makes the instant decision on how to handle it.
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Seversal mentions about the Cateye EL500 and this is a good light. However, for on road I also like to have an EL300 to compliment it. The 500 is a spot lamp and the 300 a flood. Plus the fact- it is safer to have two lights on a bike, just in case one fails. I am actually an offroader and I did use these two lamps- coupled with a helmet lamp for some of my gentler offroad rides. For this year I have gone and bought a powerfull twin 5w Luxion Lamp with an L Ion battery. What a difference!!! It has 3 setting on power and for trail or road riding I use the Low power setting. This will give me 8 hrs of light and is completely satisfactory for my evening 3 hours ride in the winter. Then If I want more power there are the high settings and the Turbo. Turbo will still give me over 2 hours battery life and is definitely strong enough for offroad.
It depends on what you want a lamp to do. If you want to be seen then most respectable Lamps will do it. If you want to see- then go for the most powerfull that you can afford as HID or Luxions with the L Ion batteries do not come cheap.
https://www.use1.com/exposure/product...duro/index.php
It depends on what you want a lamp to do. If you want to be seen then most respectable Lamps will do it. If you want to see- then go for the most powerfull that you can afford as HID or Luxions with the L Ion batteries do not come cheap.
https://www.use1.com/exposure/product...duro/index.php
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Originally Posted by 8bit
I don't know if you can power a 3W LED from a hub generator (to full power).
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Originally Posted by LWaB
Solidlights do a twin 3W LED dynamo headlight (with automatic switching designed to run off a Schmidt hub) that is quite popular with British Audaxers.
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Originally Posted by LWaB
Solidlights do a twin 3W LED dynamo headlight (with automatic switching designed to run off a Schmidt hub) that is quite popular with British Audaxers.
Looks interesting. And pricy. It may be interesting to compare it to a twin E6 setup.
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Originally Posted by Marcello
https://www.solidlights.co.uk/products/1203d.php
Looks interesting. And pricy. It may be interesting to compare it to a twin E6 setup.
Looks interesting. And pricy. It may be interesting to compare it to a twin E6 setup.
Pricey for sure... the base dyno version is UK£ 140.00 = 265.18800 US$ (according to Google!)
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I've ridden with people using Solidlights and am contemplating them for the next PBP. They make dual B&Ms look dim and hit full power at lower speeds. Check for comments on "Another Cycling Forum".
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Originally Posted by Rowan
I hear/read this a lot. If you say "higher initial outlay", then maybe yes. But if you use lithium batteries and go through one set a night (or even several nights on a randonnee), then it doesn't take very long for the Schmidt cost to amortise out to be very attractive, and the hub for me has been totallly reliable, plus I haven't had to worry about rechargeables or running out of spare batteries. I have been running a Schmidt for over three years and around 50,000km with A LOT of night riding. The ~$US200 initial cost has been well and truly covered.
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Originally Posted by LWaB
I've ridden with people using Solidlights and am contemplating them for the next PBP. They make dual B&Ms look dim and hit full power at lower speeds. Check for comments on "Another Cycling Forum".
a certain magazine's forum maybe?
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Originally Posted by bmike
hmmm... have looked around with no luck.
a certain magazine's forum maybe?
a certain magazine's forum maybe?
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Originally Posted by bmike
hmmm... have looked around with no luck.
a certain magazine's forum maybe?
a certain magazine's forum maybe?
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Hehehehe... I'm sorry about introducing the veiled references to the bike business in New Hampshire, but I had a less than acceptable outcome, not to do with product, but with the individual concerned when I arrived at the location after travelling half way around the world to see him. And yes, it was an arranged visit, so he knew I was coming. So I was dissatisfied with the service, and decline to use the business' name. I should add that his wife, Linda, was excellent in what she did, but she is not the persona of the business, nor had his knowledge for a very simple solution that he did not want to provide.
I know which business you speak of. Very near to my old home in S. Vermont.
I was referring to the forum... of which the post below will help me find. Thanks.
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Originally Posted by Marcello
I think he was referring to another cycling forum where the majority of members would be from the UK, and have more familiarity with the Solidlights lights. Perhaps this one or this one.
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A good Solidlights thread
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Originally Posted by Marcello
https://www.solidlights.co.uk/products/1203d.php
Looks interesting. And pricy. It may be interesting to compare it to a twin E6 setup.
Looks interesting. And pricy. It may be interesting to compare it to a twin E6 setup.
I would be mounting it on a recumbent with disc brakes so the fork crown, brake mount and handlebar options are not useful.
Also is there a North American source for Solidlights or do you have to order them from the UK?
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Originally Posted by DanteB
At night on a dark road nothing is overkill!!! I use a Niterider Cyclone on my helmet and a Serfas SL-400 on the handlebars. As a taillight I use the Niterider taillight on steady. I also wear 2 ankle reflector bands, a small slow moving triangle on my backside and a lot of reflective tape all over my bike.
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Originally Posted by 8bit
I don't know if you can power a 3W LED from a hub generator (to full power). Since LEDs are either on or off, you'd need some circuitry with a capacitor and a microprocessor to be able to power-cycle the LED in short bursts so it stays 'on' even when the voltage from the generator drops. Conventional bulbs don't have the on/off problem, they just dim when the power drops. It's not an impossible problem to power an LED lamp off a hub, it's just a little cumbersome.
BTW, they make 5 Watt white LEDs now. https://www.theledlight.com/LuxeonLEDs.html Prepare to be blinded!
BTW, they make 5 Watt white LEDs now. https://www.theledlight.com/LuxeonLEDs.html Prepare to be blinded!
I recently bought a shimano 3n71 hub and built a wheel around it. Connected to this hub is a state of the art home made quad Luxeon III setup (with 4, 6 degree collimaters and driven by a buckpuck with a bridgerectifier in front of it. at less than 5 mph I get a slight strobe effect, anything above and I get solid light. This gives me plenty of light at moderate speed and grows brighter as I speed up. I think I like this even more than my HID actually, it isn't quite as bright but is a lot less fuss as I can just leave everything attached to the bike. I had it up between 30 and 40 mph for a pretty gnarly descent the other day and it pulled through with flying colors. If anyone is interested in details just let me know. I really like this setup as I don't need to worry about switching lights on and off depending on if I am going downhill or not. I have around 70 miles on the light so far without a single issue.
Shimano 3n71 hub - $90 (Harris Cycles AKA Sheldon Brown's place of employment)
Velocity Aerohead rim - $48 (superspokes.com)
Spokes - $30 (ebay)
Leds- $12 (luxeon.com)
Buckpuck - $20 (Do a search on the internet, I used an extra one from an older light)
Bridge Rectifier - $3 (Radio Shack)
Aluminum L stock - $10 (HomeDepot- aluminum is used to mount the lights so that we get both a light mount and a heatsink with one part)
Waterproof switch- $10 (batteryspace.com)
(JB Weld is used to hold it all together)
Total - $223 for a wicked bright dynohub light that is very close to the efficiency of the Schmidt hub. Myself, I will save the $300 extra dollars and lose a minute or two every 100 miles.
Incidentally, to keep me visible at stops I just put a PrincetonTec Eos on the bike at lowest setting. This gives me an incredibly long runtime and a good be seen light.
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