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Giant OCR3 out of question for long distance touring

Old 01-30-07, 06:28 PM
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Giant OCR3 out of question for long distance touring

I am wanting to start getting into long distance touring but am broke i already have a OCR3 that i ride
could this be used or is it a disaster waiting to happen
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Old 01-30-07, 08:49 PM
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I have an OCR3 .... it was all right for long distance events (like centuries, brevets, randonnees) but I wouldn't use it for a tour. For one thing, it won't take a rack.
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Old 01-31-07, 05:23 AM
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My primary is an OCR3 and I love it. I agree with Machka, it works great and is comfy, but forget it if you need racks.
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Could the Op use a BOB trailer on this bike ?
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Trailer could work fine...

What type of tour? Credit card? Get a seatpost beam style rack and travel light.


But, it will take a rack. You just need to get creative.

Travelling light, but with more gear than a CC tour?
I successfully mounted a Tubus fly on my LeMond Zurich and used small Ortlieb panniers on it for around town and a 400k brevet. I found an adapter that worked at the frame, and I used a hardware store clamp around the seatpost. Handlebar bag on the front and you'd have plenty of room for ultralight touring.

Tubus Fly from Peter White (I modified to get the top support up to the seatpost) The original concept is to bolt behind the brake... but I didn't want to mess with taking the brake on and off.





Or get a larger Tubus rack and QR adaptor. You'll still have to work out the top connection - but its do-able.




What about Old Man Mountain?
Cold Springs rear, with a skewer attachment.
You'll have to work out how to attach it to the bike at the top. Again, a band clamp and seatpost connection might work...




You'll have to judge how much weight you feel comfortable / want to carry...
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Old 02-05-07, 01:25 AM
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Im actually going fully loaded im not really worried about racks my brother is a welder and we made some that work with full front and back panniers plus OCR3 does support back rack im more worried about durabilty of frame and components
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Maybe I'm just special or something, but my OCR3 mounts a rear rack just fine. Are you talking about front racks?
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Well im sure you are special =) but I kinda just worded that strange OCR3 Does support back rack i just
made ones for front.
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Originally Posted by ejkeat83
Well im sure you are special =) but I kinda just worded that strange OCR3 Does support back rack i just
made ones for front.
Thanks, I feel special now.
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I just bought a Giant OCR3 and I intend on using for long distance group rides. I'm still getting used to it, but I was wondering if anyone has any problems with the OCR3?
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I just bought a Giant OCR3 and I intend on using for long distance group rides. I'm still getting used to it, but I was wondering if anyone has any problems with the OCR3?
Aside from paralyzed hands ... nope, no problems.
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Old 01-05-08, 03:22 AM
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A friend in Australia used one for randonnees up to and including an aborted PBP in 2003 (where he had a mild heart attack and someone stole the bike while he was in hospital -- "I haf come to collect bike for brother"). As I recall, the worst problem had to do with a rear wheel that went out of true. Apart from that, he seemed fairly happy with it.
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Originally Posted by ejkeat83 View Post
Im actually going fully loaded im not really worried about racks my brother is a welder and we made some that work with full front and back panniers plus OCR3 does support back rack im more worried about durabilty of frame and components
Be careful with putting a front rack on that bike. Bikes that are built to take front racks have "slower" geometry to deal with the extra weight up front. Your OCR may handle in an unsafe way with a front load... it just wasn't designed for it.

I would worry about the durability of the frame if carrying a typical touring load in front and rear racks. The OCR is a lightweight, aluminum frame. It wasn't designed for heavy loads.

You might consider looking around for a late '80-early '90s non-suspension mountain bike. Some of these frames make for decent touring bikes on the cheap. They have long chainstays and slack geometry, making them stable when carrying a heavy load. You'll need to get slick tires, possibly change handlebars and saddle, and get some racks, of course.
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Old 01-05-08, 09:18 AM
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I purchased a Giant OCR-2 (next model up from OCR-3), last year I put over 2000 miles on it between Aug - Dec. Some of the riding included a 200KM brevet, 2 125+ rides and 6 or 7 century rides. As for the frame and components, the OCR-3 should be fine, however as money comes available you will end up wanting to do some tweaks to it to make it more comfortable for rides greater then 100 mile. (Which is probably true for most bikes.)

The OCR-2 I have will also except a rack, I assume the OCR-3 should also since they both use the same frame.

For LD riding, you will want to dump the stock saddle quickly, also the factory brakes will not last you long if you are doing a lot of hills. I just go a new Brooks B-17 in the mail yesterday, hope to have it broke in for a 200K Brevet in March.

I logged the maintenance I did on the bike for the first 2000 miles, can't say if your experience will be similar, but it may give you some insight. If you are interested, here is a link to my log, the service record is in the middle column. https://www.mycyclinglog.com/bike_detail.php?bid=2011

Like others here, I would not recommend doing LOADED touring on it. For credit card tours / brevets / centuries it is fine. As for using it as a LD/Randonneur bike, I have read that 1200KM rides are completed every year on just about every type of bike imaginable. A lot of times it is more an issue of having your head into it rather then equipment.

Other modifications I have considering for doing LD riding with the OCR-2. These may be similar for the OCR-3.

#1 - Aluminum seatpost, I weigh 225, plus I would like to dump the Bontrager rack and hang a good size bag off of the back seat. Not sure if it is a good idea on the Carbon Fiber Post. I figure I will still keep the CF post, and put it on for rides less then 100 mile. Rides longer then that I will reconfigure to use the aluminum seatpost / bag combo.

#2 - Brooks Saddle - Received yesterday, throwing away the stock saddle.

#3 - Some say that the rims should be upgraded for Brevet riding. I am still out on this, the stock ones on the bike are 24, and are pretty durable, and have only went out of true one time due to a pot hole that I hit at good speed.

These rims do propose a problem with using a generator hub though. For 300KM or longer events you will have address this issue and consider getting a different set that supports the hub, or going battery powered for your light setup.

Based upon my experiences, I think the bike you have will be fine. Just make sure it fits you, and be meticulous about its maintenance.
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ejkeat83 - What constitutes a "long distance tour" for you? Are you asking about using an OCR for general long distance riding, or do you intend to use the OCR for loaded touring? If the former, the OCR is fine. If the latter, almost certainly not.

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I picked up the OCR for century rides. I got a great price on it and couldn't walk away from it. I ride a Novara Randonee for touring.
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I picked up the OCR for century rides. I got a great price on it and couldn't walk away from it. I ride a Novara Randonee for touring.

For century rides an OCR3 wouldn't be too bad ... I very literally paralyzed both hands (could not move my fingers and no feeling in my hands) after a rather rough 600K. Aluminum frame + rough roads = numb and useless hands.
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What's your suggestion for a LD bike? I don't like the idea of having a pair of paralyzed hands. Should I just stick the Randonee for all the LD rides?
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Ummmm... the paralysed hands could be related more to fit than the bike itself. Having said that, I had a Merida with an alloy frame but Cro-Mo fork, and I couldn't see me riding more than a century on it because it just didn't feel comfortable enough. And, it was set up almost identically in body contact dimensions to the Fuji Touring I would normally use, except the handlebars were below the seat, which in turn was a Brooks Pro. The other difference was that it used 23C tyres instead of 25 or 28s.

As to the OCR, I think my friend ran 28s on the rims with sufficient clearance on the fork and chainstays. It was a comfort factor thing.
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Originally Posted by Machka View Post
For century rides an OCR3 wouldn't be too bad ... I very literally paralyzed both hands (could not move my fingers and no feeling in my hands) after a rather rough 600K. Aluminum frame + rough roads = numb and useless hands.
When I was looking around for a touring bike for my trans-Canada trip, I did discover that the OCR3 came in a touring version with lugs on for panniers and mudguards. However, the absence of steel forks made me decide against it, even though it was very pretty.

The OCR3 that I've had for four years has served me very well over long distances unladen, although I would agree that it doesn't like rough road surfaces and your hands will pay the price. The best solution that I came up with was to tilt the bars up a bit, almost cross fashion, and the geometry has suited me a lot better. It won't help for everyone, but it's a trick worth trying that a lot of people forget about.
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For century rides an OCR3 wouldn't be too bad ... I very literally paralyzed both hands (could not move my fingers and no feeling in my hands) after a rather rough 600K. Aluminum frame + rough roads = numb and useless hands.
Ah, this is great information for me, as my brevet bike so far has been a 2006 OCR3. I haven't done any rides longer than a 300km brevet on it. I found out that chipseal and aluminium bike doesn't make a good match.

I was hoping to do a 600Km on it this year before I ordered a Marinoni Sportivo. I might have to get it earlier than that.
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Originally Posted by cpblue View Post
I just bought a Giant OCR3 and I intend on using for long distance group rides. I'm still getting used to it, but I was wondering if anyone has any problems with the OCR3?
My first road bike was an OCR3 and the bike is fine. The only thing I would say are not are the wheels but that goes for most cheap bikes aswell.
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