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Old 05-01-07, 07:09 PM
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Another vote for Co2. They're more expensive in the long run, but such a time and effort saver. Figure it costs me a couple of bucks per flat -- which is nothing compared to the other ways I waste my money -- but fixing a flat takes about 3 minutes from start to finish, I don't have to wear myself out with a hand pump, and I don't have to carry a big old pump and worry about it falling off of my bike over potholes or anything. FWIW.
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Topeak customer service is excellent!!! I would never get anything else.
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I assume full-length frame pumps aren't that hard to use w/o tearing out the valve stem, but I love the hose on the morph that separates the pumping action from the tire.

It does take a lot of strokes for the morph to get up to 100 psi (~1 stroke/1-2psi through maybe 60, then it starts getting to be more and more (and more) strokes/psi). It always works though.

I've never had a functional problem w/ either of 2 road morphs. I did lose the footpad for one, and they just sent me another. I'm waiting on hearing from them to see if they can resolve a different issue w/ a different part, but so far so good.
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pumps and flats

Originally Posted by HardyWeinberg
I assume full-length frame pumps aren't that hard to use w/o tearing out the valve stem, but I love the hose on the morph that separates the pumping action from the tire.

It does take a lot of strokes for the morph to get up to 100 psi (~1 stroke/1-2psi through maybe 60, then it starts getting to be more and more (and more) strokes/psi). It always works though.

I've never had a functional problem w/ either of 2 road morphs. I did lose the footpad for one, and they just sent me another. I'm waiting on hearing from them to see if they can resolve a different issue w/ a different part, but so far so good.

For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction!
If you hold on and pull slightly when you are pumping with a full length pump you shouldn't tear the stem off. I most always use a floor pump and only use a frame pump when I have a blowout or a slow leak. This rarely happens however since I run 32 mm tires and plan on 37's soon.

Big wide tires, equal less pressure, more comfort on variable road surfaces, not much reduction in speed on smooth asphalt, improved speed on chip seal or other rough roads and finally less need to pump your tires since you flat less often or perhaps not at all.
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Originally Posted by charles vail
Big wide tires, equal less pressure, more comfort on variable road surfaces, not much reduction in speed on smooth asphalt, improved speed on chip seal or other rough roads and finally less need to pump your tires since you flat less often or perhaps not at all.
But not all of us have that option. The widest I can go is 25s.
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I've got a Topeak Mountain Morph pump but I still prefer my Blackburn frame pump for fast fill-ups. Will go to 160 psi according to their specifications. Works for me so far. I mount it on the seat tube between the left seatstay and bottom bracket/chainstay junction.
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I carry a Zefal HPX and a Co2 inflator with two cartridges
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I use the WINDPIPE FRAME MOUNT SHOCK PUMP.

Its big, heavy and inflates everything under the sun. Probably not the best for a racer, but works well for me. Mounts under your bottle cage on the downtube.

Edit: I included the name in case the link doesn't work
Edit 2: apparently the first click of the link says come back later. Second click works. Six Jours is right..the specialized site is a PITA! But the pump works.
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The link didn't work for me. (The Specialized website in general is a massive PITA, as far as I'm concerned.) What is it that you're using?
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Originally Posted by Machka
But not all of us have that option. The widest I can go is 25s.
I'm sorry......I had the same problem on a very nice lugged frame. Perhaps a new bike or conversion to 650B is in order.
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To the OP, no pump can cause pinch flats. To avoid pinch flats, squeeze out all the air you can, from the new inner tube. Don't put air in it, for it to take shape, that is totally wrong. Place the inner tube into the tire and mount the tire on the rim. Inspect the mounting such that you do not see the inner tube when the sidewalls are squeezed together. This guarantees no pinch flats.

Edit: The road morphs are pretty good pumps. At high pressure, as with all pumps, it gets harder to pump. The road morph can get me the high pressure I want.
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I just bought a Topeak Road Morph about a week ago off ebay for $25 ($31 Shipped) and glad I did. Today I got a flat and I was able to patch the tire and pump it up to 120 psi with no problems with the Road Morph. I love the built in gauge.
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Has any one tried the Quicker Pro available from Velo Orange, and described here? It sounds great, and I'm interested to know if any member has any experience with it.

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I have one. It works fine. It is bulky (I prefer a slimmer profile) and too heavy for my taste. It has an attachment system which I do not like - rubber system that does not hook up to bottle cage mounts and it does not feel like it is that secure. I ended up mounting it to an old mountain bike the kids use once in a while.
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Originally Posted by Bacciagalupe
I'd go with a CO2 inflator. Small, fast, easy, no fuss.
Word ^ I'll never go back to a reg pump again.
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Well, my roadmorph and I have been through it all. I wasn't really converted until I tried my first double century, alone, in the rain, with flooded roads. I had 14 flats that day and pumped up my tires so many times I can't count. The road morph held up all the way through the ordeal. I have tried other pumps with flashy carbon tubes and lighter weight but I always come back to the road morph. In fact, if I had had my road morph on the last 600k instead of the little lipstick case pump I had (fell victim to the light = good temptation) I probably would not have DNF'd, my moral tanked when I realized I would have to pump up that tire with the mini-pump, if I'd had the Road Morph it wouldn't have been any big deal. Anyway, that's my 2cents. Mini morph does not = road/mountain morph.
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Originally Posted by djgonzo007
Word ^ I'll never go back to a reg pump again.
But aren't CO2 inflators one-time only? How many do you carry on a 600K? 1000K? 1200K?
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Originally Posted by Machka
But aren't CO2 inflators one-time only? How many do you carry on a 600K? 1000K? 1200K?
You go down to Walmart and buy them in bulk that come in a box of 50 and just strap onto your rear bike rack.

Today there are several mini pumps, if your trying to conserve weight, that can reach 145+ psi and be reliable doing it. BlackBurn Airstik CF mini 160psi; Topeak Micro Rocket CF 160psi; Barbieri TI 160psi; just to list a few.

I know you will never pump your tires past 130 so why get a pump that will go up to 160? Because that means you will exert less energy to reach lower levels then you would with a pump that has a max rating of 100.
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Yes, but how long will it take you to pump a 700c x 35mm tire to 90 lbs? (Yes, that's what I have on my bike at the moment)

I love my Road Morph. And the Mini Morph. I don't even have a floor pump at home, I just use my Road Morph.
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Originally Posted by froze
You go down to Walmart and buy them in bulk that come in a box of 50 and just strap onto your rear bike rack.

Today there are several mini pumps, if your trying to conserve weight, that can reach 145+ psi and be reliable doing it. BlackBurn Airstik CF mini 160psi; Topeak Micro Rocket CF 160psi; Barbieri TI 160psi; just to list a few.

I know you will never pump your tires past 130 so why get a pump that will go up to 160? Because that means you will exert less energy to reach lower levels then you would with a pump that has a max rating of 100.

That is what I thought. I had a flat 130 miles into the 600k and I discovered a flat tire after coming out of the store. I was at a low point and the thought of spending the next 20 minutes using that little pump to inflate the tire to pressure just broke me down. It would not have been a big deal with the Road Morph.
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Noone else seems to have suggested it, so how about the Cyclaire? I've got no problems with the one I've got, though I only need to inflate to ~100psi and also seem to have been lucky wrt the p*nct*re fairy recently. (Having checked the website it would appear that 120 is the maximum it will inflate to, so it might take a while to get there?)
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Originally Posted by Machka
But aren't CO2 inflators one-time only? How many do you carry on a 600K? 1000K? 1200K?
How many flats do you usually get on a 600k, 1000k or 1200k ride?

You can also get combo CO2 / mini-pumps; I'd recommend that for unsupported rides over, I dunno, 600k maybe? That way you can inflate fast, and still have a backup if you totally run out of cartridges.

To wit: https://www.performancebike.com/shop/...tegory_ID=4362
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Worst day I ever had, puncture-wise, was an eight hour ride in the rain including some truly delectable parts of Long Beach, San Pedro, and a number of other "heavy commercial" type areas. Nasty roads covered with wet detritus. Light tubulars, four flats. I was lucky to be on a ride with the team, otherwise I would have walked home. (I've never been in the habit of carrying four spare tubulars around with me.)

So I figure for the longest rides, I can take half a dozen Co2 cartridges with me. More than six flats means god doesn't want me to ride any more that day:-)
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Originally Posted by bmclaughlin807
Yes, but how long will it take you to pump a 700c x 35mm tire to 90 lbs? (Yes, that's what I have on my bike at the moment)

I love my Road Morph. And the Mini Morph. I don't even have a floor pump at home, I just use my Road Morph.
People think that those mini's you have to pump 500 times to get the air pressure up to 90lbs in your example, and that simply is not true. I have a Torelli Aria mini that is no where near as good as the mini's out today and it only requires about 148 pumps to get a 700x28 up to 100psi...though with that pump it is a struggle to get the last 10psi in; therefore getting a 35mm up to 90 would take maybe 20 more pumps, but it would be easier because your not pushing the pumps max capability of 100.

The newer mini pumps that go to 160 would be a cinch to get to 100psi and do it faster then mine.
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Originally Posted by Paul L.
That is what I thought. I had a flat 130 miles into the 600k and I discovered a flat tire after coming out of the store. I was at a low point and the thought of spending the next 20 minutes using that little pump to inflate the tire to pressure just broke me down. It would not have been a big deal with the Road Morph.
It doesn't take anywhere near 20 minutes to inflate a tire with a mini. I have an older slower Torelli Aria mini and it only takes me about 7 minutes, give or take a minute with the mini (when I'm motivated); AND THAT INCLUDES removing the wheel, removing part of the tire and tube, repairing the hole, putting it all back together and of course pumping!! How does that equate to 20 minutes of just pumping? You must be ridiculously slow.
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