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Clipless Pedals - Please teach me about these

Old 01-27-10, 12:06 PM
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Clipless Pedals - Please teach me about these

I would like to get clipless pedals and I am totally clueless on what to buy. I started back up riding a couple of years ago on a hybrid and bought a road bike last year. Its a Giant OCR 3W. I'm thinking about doing a 300 mile(100 miles x 3 days) ride in July and wondering if clipless pendals would be beneficial? I would like to spend $100 max. Now what about shoes, is there a road shoe that I could also walk in? I like mountain bike style shoes, would these be too heavy for road biking, would mountain bike shoes fit road bike pedals?
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"generally" mountain bike cleats have two bolts and road pedals have three, but there are exceptions. (shimano spd road pedals)

with practice i find that road shoes are walkable, but mountain shoes are much better. there would be absolutly nothing wrong with using a mountain pedal/shoe combination on your bike. mountain bike pedals are also dual sided (crank brothers are 4) so they are a little more forgiving.

in my years i have put miles on 4 styles

look- in my opinion best to get in and out of (firm feel) great platform (large) but walking is more difficult (large cleat on smooth shoe)
spd road- easy in out but not as "connected" as the looks (tiny platform) a little better for walking (cleat "wings") compatible with many mountain shoes (walking)
spd mountain- same as spd road but double sided and good walking with mountain shoe
crank brothers- great in mud (they dont clog) easy out, and otherwise the same as spd mountain
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It sounds like you should look at Shimano's SPD system. The cleat is small and most shoes mount the cleat so it is recessed into the sole, so you can walk easily. I've got a pair of "mountain biking" shoes I use for training and brevets, I've also got a pair of fairly "normal" looking shows that I wear for my commute and can also wear all day around the office without looking funny.

I think I've got the M520 pedals, which can be had for under $50 a pair. They also make a pedal that is platform on one side and clipless on the other. I had them for a while, but found I never used the platform side. The M520s are lighter and you don't have to worry about flipping them over to get the side you want. The key with a minimalist pedal like the M520 is to have a shoe with a stiff enough sole to spread the pressure. Most cycling shoes are stiff enough, though. I haven't had any prolems.
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I use these:
Shimano A520 pedals
and these:
Sidi Dominators

No problems walking and a very nice pedal to boot. The shoes are a bit spendy but you can find lots of cheaper alternatives that may be a bit heavier and less stiff.

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I use Shimano 324, double sided, SPD, pedals; and, Shimano MTB shoes.

I really like the platform and clipless pedals, as they are very handy.

I also like the Shimano MTB shoes, as they are easy to walk in, and comfortable on the bike.

I have no problem with them being any "less connected", or, "less supported" than any other - because they are fine.
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i didnt mean to say less conected was an issue or a reason not to buy, spd is very good. i just think that larger look style platforms are better (sprinting) spd and a stiff shoe is a very good choice
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Originally Posted by surgtech1956
Now what about shoes, is there a road shoe that I could also walk in? I like mountain bike style shoes, would these be too heavy for road biking,
One of the best local racers over several years uses MTB shoes and pedals. So no, not to heavy for road riding or racing. I also use mtb pedals and shoes. I've ridden with a ton of riders in roadshoes, fast group rides, centuries with 10,000 ft of climbing, means nothing compared to conditioning.




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i just think that larger look style platforms are better (sprinting)
How much sprinting is the OP going to do on a 3 day 300 mile ride?

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Originally Posted by Mr. Beanz
How much sprinting is the OP going to do on a 3 day 300 mile ride?
thats why i say spd is a great choice. he just said he wanted to learn about clipless.
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I use shimano mtb shoes and crank brothers egg beaters. LOVE the egg beaters - can always clip in. Very often I see people with the road pedals trying to flip them over before they can start properly riding - never happens with the egg beaters. I can walk well enough in the shimano mtb shoes - rode to uni in them almost every day and spent the day walking places with ease (although I wouldn't do a long walk in them)!
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i should have stated that too. i love the egg beater sl pedals on my mtb so much i almost put them on my commuter bike.
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Both my bikes have them and are both commuters
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Originally Posted by daven1986
Both my bikes have them and are both commuters
i put looks on my commuter so i could share shoes with my road bike. my mtb shoes are often times muddy
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I want to be able to walk in my bike shoes a bit, so I only use the standard/mountain SPDs. I use A520s on my road bikes, but Shimano are about to release an updated, Ultegra level version of these, the A600. They were announced at the bike shows last Fall, but are still not in stores yet.
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I just went clipless and I am really glad I did. I used shimano spd with Bontrager "Street" shoe. It is a pretty walkable shoe and under $100. Shimano pedal. I find it easier to clip in after a stop sign or light than to get my foot into a strap. If you have the bucks - do it. You will not regret it.
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Buy MTB shoes with SPD cleats and Shimano M520 pedals. You'll be a happy bike rider.
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What about the PricePoint.Com brand - Sette and BikeNashbar.Com brand in pedals and shoes? I shop Bike Nashbar, Price Point and Performance Bike quite a bit.
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If you aren't in a hurry - you can get the Shimano 324's, and a pair of Shimano MTB shoes, for a hundred bucks - on sale. Just watch Performance' sales, or find a better price on the net, and they will match the price.
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Thanks everyone. I like the looks of the Shimano A520, M520 and the 324 pedals. The M520s are a little less expensive, the 324s I could use non-cycling shoes too, and the A520s seem to be the most pricey of the three. I order a few things from Price Point but don't really think their Sette brand is of the highest quality.
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One more point - I started with a set of Performance house brand "Campus" pedals. I believe they are Wellgo.

They are nowhere near the quality of the Shimano 324s. Not as smooth, nor as easy to use. Release was less than optimal, for sure.

I was very happy to trade them back in on the Shimanos, a huge benefit when buying from Performance.
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Nashbar has a pair of MTB shoes , Shimano MT41G, on sale for $50, right now. And, their Rodeo, probably the same as Campus, for 29. (I'd wait for the Shimano if it was me. They are worth the additional $20.)
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A quick search finds these at $53 - https://www.jensonusa.com/store/produ...s.aspx?sc=FRGL
and these for $40https://www.jensonusa.com/store/produ...+Mtb+Shoe.aspx

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Piggybacking on this discussion -- how much "float" should a newbie look for?

When my husband switched to clipless pedals last year, he went for a low-float (4 degrees) model, because he wanted to be able to get out of them at a moment's notice. I've heard discussion that 10 degrees of float might be better, and one woman in my bike club swears by her 20 degree system -- says she had foot and knee pain until she put more float in her system.

My concern is that I normally don't walk with my feet straight. My feet point outward from the line of travel. Even with toe clips, I can feel my feet trying to twist outward.

Suggestions, especially from someone else who out-toes, would be appreciated!
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Originally Posted by jeneralist
Piggybacking on this discussion -- how much "float" should a newbie look for?...
Everyone is a little different but too little float can definitely cause knee problems for some people. Just because you don't walk straight though, doesn't necessarily mean that need a lot of float. It really depends on how much your foot wants to move around during your peddle stroke. You could have crooked feet that the stay in the same place during the whole pedal stroke and you may not need any float. It just depends on your mechanics. I'm like you, my heals rub the crank arms but I walk with straight feet. If I were you I'd start out with a pedal system with more float and work from there. Pedals with a lot of float should not effect the ease of getting in and out of your cleat system.
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