TimeTravel_0

look for an all-rounder (riv sam hillborne, etc)...

canali

i just started a thread in framebuilders asking a similar question (see bottom of this post for link), now that i'm unloading a too big fitting bike...can't afford right now two so am asking if there truly is a great allrounder that can be a capable loaded touring gig (fenders clearance and can take up to 32-35" tires) and yet also once unloaded can be as nimble as most 'sport touring' bikes...so have sent emails to R&E and Davidson (both in seattle) as well as to richard schwinn of waterford/gunnar....am also looking at quality stock bikes to and tweaking them or considering using a trailor if going on a loaded tour with a sport touring bike...vs swapping out lighter

rims/removinghttps://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?677793-searching-for-true-all-rounder-frame...ideas

canali

sorry for duplicate post: (computer 'refresh' issues)

i just started a similar thread asking the framebuilders for imput...have to sell both bikes (too big) so can't afford two replacements...seeking a true allrounder that can go unloaded or loaded and ride in both 'genres' in an equally competent manner.
https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...-frame...ideas

MTBMaven

From a recent 9 day, 500 mile trip from the CA/OR border to San Francisco via the Lost Coast. Riding custom steel DeSalvo, with front Tubus Tara rack, Ortlieb Classic Roller front bags, Acorn Boxy Rando bag with Velo Orange decaluer, Bagman rack and Carradice Nelson Longflap saddle bag. Total loaded weight about 65 pounds.

Besides adding the racks, rear fender, etc. I also changed to a shorter reach and steeper rise stem, which was installed higher than my normal set up. The bike handled amazingly well fully loaded. I did notice what I felt was flex in the bike but not a big deal.

There were compromises with this bike. There was so much two overlap with the front fender I had to leave it at home (luckily there was no rain). I ran 25mm Conti GP4000s because I could not run larger tires. Both of these issues are mainly due to the way I had the bike built.

This is in Eureka, CA:


This is after the first big climb into the Lost Coast leaving Ferndale. Two of us use a Click Stand on the trip to support our loaded rigs. We both loved them. Great product!


Finishing up in Sausalito:


Amazing euro style meal in Samuel P. Taylor State Park under redwoods in the biker camp eating triple cream cheese from a small local creamery, whole bottle of wine, landjager, a small loaf of bread, and a fruit spread. ECSTASY!!!

unterhausen

there is a school of thought or rando bikes that gets pretty close to a touring bike. Then there are many designs that are similar to a racing bike with enough room for fenders and enough rake to make a front bag work well. If you are the kind of person that wants to be able to take 70 pounds on a tour, you probably will be most happy with something along the lines of a Surley LHT. If you can pare that down to 20-30 pounds, then you probably can get by with a typical randonee bike with a rear rack added.

To respond to one point you've made elsewhere, if you add sporty wheels to any bike it will be a lot sportier. Granted, you can put featherweight wheels on a LHT and it will still weigh a lot.