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Long distance seats.....Yes again

Old 08-23-11, 08:22 PM
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Long distance seats.....Yes again

Sorry folks but I have a predicament.
I have been using Brooks pro saddles for years and for the most part was happy with them but then I had an accident and my wife got cancer and business (self empl) went south......To make it short no biking for several years.
Three months ago, my new wife ( yes my wife of 34 years passed away and I have since remarried) gave me a new CF bike for father's day! The old passion flamed up again and I am back in full addiction! I have even acquired a second CF bike since then.
However, each bike came with a seat...... I am a firm believer in progress and willing to try new technology, so I decided to give them a try: One has a SMP Pro and the other a Specialized seat......Both seem to work OK but I have been doing a minimum of 55 miles to 75 miles every other day. Sometimes on one bike, sometimes on the other...But today after 60 miles I realized that something is about to break, and I think it's my butt!!!!! I have some pretty solid bruising and if I want to keep on riding it will have to be back to one of my recumbents for a few days....
So...The big question: Should I scrap these seats and go back to the Brooks Pro ( big rivet) on both bikes? I haven't ridden them for a while and I am sure it will involve some new butt-busting but at this point - I hurt and I am not thinking clearly (must be something about brain location LOL!)
So what say the long distance crew?
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Old 08-23-11, 08:34 PM
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Well, I think you can get the Brooks with titanium rails, which would be more appropriate to the bikes in a way, maybe not any more comfortable. I hear good things about the Selle An-Atomica saddles, but never have used one myself- but I would explore that route also.
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Old 08-23-11, 08:55 PM
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No thinking necessary. Go back to what you know worked. The SA option is a good one as well.
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Old 08-24-11, 05:15 PM
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There are certainly several Specialized models, and I like a few of them in addiiton to Brooks and S-A. Why not start by sticking to one bike and see if one saddle is better than the other?
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Well...I read the suggestions and looked at the manufacturer's sites and decided I liked the pressure relief solution but didn't like the price.
So I simply modified my Brooks Pro seats. We shall see tomorrow how that feels. Today it was pretty good!
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Well...I read the suggestions and looked at the manufacturer's sites and decided I liked the pressure relief solution but didn't like the price.
So I simply modified my Brooks Pro seats. We shall see tomorrow how that feels. Today it was pretty good!
What did you do to them? Please show and discuss, there's actually a lot interest out here on doing such things, and even some experience.

I don't know if S/A still will do this, but for $75 (compared to about $200 for a whole saddle) they would make a cutout in your Brooks saddle, with the cutout being about the same design they sell on their own saddles. A few users here tried it/liked it.
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Old 08-27-11, 03:29 AM
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What did you do to them? Please show and discuss, there's actually a lot interest out here on doing such things, and even some experience.

I don't know if S/A still will do this, but for $75 (compared to about $200 for a whole saddle) they would make a cutout in your Brooks saddle, with the cutout being about the same design they sell on their own saddles. A few users here tried it/liked it.
What I did is looked at the cut-outs on both the Brooks and S/A sites and made my own cut outs! So far 2 60 mile rides on one of them (the Focus) have been a total success...Tomorrow I will try the other bike (Tarmac) which has the newest Brooks Pro on it, modified in the same way. I suspect it will be just as good. If so, I will try to post some photos probably tomorrow, and describe exactly what I did.
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Well, I tried out the second one today and despite it not being a "broken in" Brooks Pro Idid a pretty comfortable 66 miles! So both seats as shown are Brook Pros one is broken in with a feww thousand miles on it the other only a couple of hundred. You can easily see which is which. Both ride great but the broken in one is about as close to terrific as you can get! And it didn't cost me anything. I marked a center-line with a pencil, drilled two 3/8" holes at the two extremes, drew a smooth shape between them and cut it out with progressive passes of an Exacto blade. Cleaned up the edges and they were ready to go!
I thought I may have to adjust the cutout, but so far I see mo reason to.
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Old 08-28-11, 11:37 AM
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This note posted on our LSR board:
"At the Hotter N Hell expo Sella An-atomica had a booth set up in the House of Tandems area...(Meredith Milton Evans) told us they are coming out with a seat with titanium rails. The new seats are now lighter with hollow chrome molly rails instead of the old solid steel rails."
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Old 08-28-11, 01:51 PM
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https://www.ismseat.com/products_road.htm
I used to use a Brooks saddle until I got a Adamo road saddle I now have about 3000 miles on it this year and have no complaints. I did the STP ride 203 miles in one day and just road from Bellingham Wa to Winthrop Wa 164 miles over the north Cascade Highway in one day with no problems. Go to there web site and read up they are great saddles. I will use nothing else.
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Old 08-28-11, 02:08 PM
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Brooks B17 has been my favourite for the past 7 years ... and my new-ish Brooks B17 with the titanium rails is great. I'm really liking that saddle.
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Old 09-02-11, 04:38 PM
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I've bookmarked a Selle San Marco Regal and will buy it soon. I read somewhere it has the nickname "The Belgian Sofa".
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Originally Posted by StephenH View Post
This note posted on our LSR board:
"At the Hotter N Hell expo Sella An-atomica had a booth set up in the House of Tandems area...(Meredith Milton Evans) told us they are coming out with a seat with titanium rails. The new seats are now lighter with hollow chrome molly rails instead of the old solid steel rails."
Good. I wasn't real impressed with their "weight doesn't matter" attitude. Look, people want to know. Even if comfort is the prime concern on a saddle, the weight still factors in somewhere.

That said, I personally looked at the weight savings/dollar ratio on a Brooks, and bought the one with steel rails. Most of the weight on these comes from the leather.
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I've spent hundreds of dollars experimenting with various saddles*, and the best one I've found is the Selle An-Atomica. Brooks' B17 was close, but not nearly as comfortable. As always, your mileage may vary.

*Fizik Aliante, SSM Regal & Rolls, Specialized, Selle Italia, and more.
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Old 10-28-11, 09:25 AM
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I purchased a Brooks B-17 for my tandem. Never could find a seat that worked on that bike. One seat was good for up to 60 miles but after that I had to take breaks abd was not comfortable, and unfortunaley that seat ripped and they no longer made it. I tried several other seats ang could only ride about 20 miles before discomfort. Bought the Brooks before a century in Death Valley. Weather did not coperate before the ride and I had only about 80 miles on the Brooks (riding on my single) before the century. The seat was not broken in and I had not tried it on the tandem. The day before the ride I put the seat on and we went for a short 20 mile ride checking adjustments on the bike from shipping. Next day we did the century and I never had the first discomfort from the seat. I cant wait til it is broken in. Now I am thinking about getting another one for my single bike.
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B17N are our favorit on our tandems (Speedster & Touche). We also use the Professional but in an secondhand set - we have there for never had any issues about riding them in! They also have the thícker leather used by Brooks back in the 1980íes. We are about leaving the B17 because our thighs aretoo big for them: causing bouncing when the cadence are high.
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I've been riding a Brooks B17 for a year or two. After 20 to 30 years of Turbo's and Turbomatics. The B 17 was immediately comfortable and too bad I have not been riding them all this time.

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Brooks B17 has been my favourite for the past 7 years ... and my new-ish Brooks B17 with the titanium rails is great. I'm really liking that saddle.
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I got my LHT in Feb this year. Didn't like the stock WTB saddle and used the Forte saddle from my old bike. Until the end of May. Then I did my first century and my privates went numb.

Bikeforums.net advised I go with the Selle Anatomica and haven't had any further problems. I could have saved a few bucks with the Brooks Imperial, and I'm sure it would have been equally sufficient, but we are talking about my privates and the Selle got the most recommendations so that's what I'm riding. No complaints since.
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Just got a Selle anatomica myself. Very comfortable out of the box, but really showed its stuff during a metric century I rode on Saturday: no soreness or numbness at all, despite needing to tweak the adjustments.

I've been disappointed by saddles before, so I'm reserving judgement, but this might be the saddle I've been looking for. Wish it were cheaper and lighter, though.
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Brooks will do the cut out themselves, all you have to do is send the seat back to them.
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...despite needing to tweak the adjustments.
What tweaks did you find helpful? I've been riding my SA for 9 months now, and have found it pretty comfortable. Occasional slight numbness in my right foot on long rides...and I'd be interested in hearing about adjustments you found to be an improvement.
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What tweaks did you find helpful? I've been riding my SA for 9 months now, and have found it pretty comfortable. Occasional slight numbness in my right foot on long rides...and I'd be interested in hearing about adjustments you found to be an improvement.
Fore-and-aft is important, so you stay on the wider part of the saddle where your butt belongs; for now I've settled on just a bit behind kops for more energy to the pedals while climbing. I'm also fiddling with the level of the saddle. It seems to feel best with the nose just a bit above level. Too much, though, and the nose can be felt where you don't want to feel it.

I still wish it were lighter and cheaper, and I haven't fallen in love with its looks yet, but it's incredibly comfortable. First century-length ride will tell the tale once and for all.
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OP I think that going with what you know was a totally reasonable course of action.

I do ok on a B17. I always lace mine up high (around the top of the stamped logo) to add stiffness and counteract the hammock effect. For anyone who hasn't tried it it's a worthy mod. I'm a steel rails kind of guy I guess and you do hear stories about the ti Brooks rails breaking sometimes.

I want to try Selle Anatomica and/ or GB someday but am too poor for now.

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I just bought a new ISM Adamo Century saddle. Several folks in my club that do regular century rides swear by it. I had an initial fit at the LBS a few days ago and took it for a quick spin today at lunchtime. I did a couple roadside adjustments to improve the initial fit. So far, I really like it, but I'll need to do at least one 50+ mile ride before I can definitively say. I'm doing a metric century this Saturday. I'll post an update after that. One thing I really, really like is that my family jewels are off the front of the saddle. No contact at all. And I still have full control in turns, etc. with my thighs.
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