What's in YOUR toolbag for long rides
Here is my tool bag contents......
1. One spare tube all talced up in a ziplocked snack bag 2. Patch kit and alcohol wipes to clean talc and mold release off. 3. Long strip of duct tape for booting or patching epidermis 4. Tie wraps 5. one CO2 cartridge 6. Pump 7. Carbon fibre spoke replacement and/or real spokes 8. Quick link to repair chain 9. Spoke tool, chain breaker combo 10. Hex wrenches (3, 4, 5 mm) 11. small chain lube 12. Two tire "irons" 13. TP and cell phone Am I missing anything? What do the rest of you carry? I very rarely have gotten flats but anticipate one tonight after making such a foolhardy statement. I have never broken a brake or shifter cable, so, I don't carry either. I figure one brake would get me to the finish and I could always covert to a Fixie if the rear cable broke or just run the small ring if the front derailluer cable broke or at least that is the plan. |
Originally Posted by Weatherby
(Post 16668918)
... and I could always covert to a Fixie if the rear cable broke ... .
I've gone Single-Speed twice in the last six or seven years due to breaking the rear cable. Once pre-rando; once in 2012, early in a solo 208k Permanent. Each time I rode home in my 39/11. On the pre-rando ride, I didn't know what else to do. In Sep-2012, I DNF'd the perm and used the 39/11 because getting back to town in that gearing would be "acceptable." About a month before, in Aug-2012, my buddy Robert snapped his rear cable, and Bob and I tied off Robert's rear cable to one of his water bottle cages. We were only ~27-miles into the hilly 204/5 km Perm, and sent Robert home riding in a middling cog, but with both chain-rings of his compact operational. =================================================== As for what I carry in the "toolbag" -- less than you.
|
I was planning on fixing the ratio to either 34x22 or 34x25 by applying a suitable implement into the parallelogram. Walnut or oak should work. I probably should try this out....always assumed it would work.
|
"Fixie" means NO free-wheel. If the bike is moving, you MUST be pedaling.
"Single-Speed" means that you have only one gear, but have a free-wheel and you can coast. ==================================================== Try placing the chain on the desired cog, pull HARD and tie-off very tight. Or use the -- oh, what the heck is the correct name? -- hi / lo set-screws to force the derailluer to stay in the chosen middling cog. The latter worked for me in February this year for a few rides until I had the time and funds to replace the rear cable. I was riding a three-speed for a couple weeks: 50/39/30 in front -- 15 in the back. |
Originally Posted by skiffrun
(Post 16669030)
"Fixie" means NO free-wheel. If the bike is moving, you MUST be pedaling.
"Single-Speed" means that you have only one gear, but have a free-wheel and you can coast. ==================================================== Did I mention I carry a portable acetylene torch when riding a steel frame? I promise to fuse the freewheel. :) |
Originally Posted by Weatherby
(Post 16668918)
Here is my tool bag contents......
1. One spare tube all talced up in a ziplocked snack bag 2. Patch kit and alcohol wipes to clean talc and mold release off. 3. Long strip of duct tape for booting or patching epidermis 4. Tie wraps 5. one CO2 cartridge 6. Pump 7. Carbon fibre spoke replacement and/or real spokes 8. Quick link to repair chain 9. Spoke tool, chain breaker combo 10. Hex wrenches (3, 4, 5 mm) 11. small chain lube 12. Two tire "irons" 13. TP and cell phone Am I missing anything? What do the rest of you carry? I very rarely have gotten flats but anticipate one tonight after making such a foolhardy statement. I have never broken a brake or shifter cable, so, I don't carry either. I figure one brake would get me to the finish and I could always covert to a Fixie if the rear cable broke or just run the small ring if the front derailluer cable broke or at least that is the plan. I did once break the front gear cable about 110km into a 200km brevet. I didn't have a spare so put the FD onto the middle ring and just did the best I could for the 50km to the next control, where someone gave me a spare cable and I got going again. Since then I carry a spare cable. They are cheap, small and light, so I'd rather have it and not need it than the reverse. |
I carry three tubes. I double flatted once, I was glad I had that third tube. I carry a patch kit, but I think my head would explode if I actually needed to use it. I also carry a spare tire. I've never needed it, but I know people that have needed a spare tire. I try to keep newer tires on my rando bike. Problem with that is when you get a flat, you're out of practice for fixing them.
|
Originally Posted by Weatherby
(Post 16668918)
Here is my tool bag contents......
1. One spare tube all talced up in a ziplocked snack bag 2. Patch kit and alcohol wipes to clean talc and mold release off. 3. Long strip of duct tape for booting or patching epidermis 4. Tie wraps 5. one CO2 cartridge 6. Pump 7. Carbon fibre spoke replacement and/or real spokes 8. Quick link to repair chain 9. Spoke tool, chain breaker combo 10. Hex wrenches (3, 4, 5 mm) 11. small chain lube 12. Two tire "irons" 13. TP and cell phone Am I missing anything? What do the rest of you carry? I very rarely have gotten flats but anticipate one tonight after making such a foolhardy statement. I have never broken a brake or shifter cable, so, I don't carry either. I figure one brake would get me to the finish and I could always covert to a Fixie if the rear cable broke or just run the small ring if the front derailluer cable broke or at least that is the plan. |
Good point about being out of practice fixing flats. Should be able to do it in under 5 minutes soup to nuts.
I need to rotate the front tire to the rear and rear to front. Been avoiding that task. I need to think of it as practice. When I used to do long distance, loaded touring a spare tire was always in the bottom of the pannier. Probably makes sense to carry a light replacement tire on a long Rando in remote areas. I don't think I am ever more than 20 miles from a bike shop where I normally ride. |
Originally Posted by jsjcat
(Post 16669151)
What do you consider a long ride?
I now think of long as not wanting to call my wife with the truck to fetch me. There is no fixed definition of "long" in my mind. How about you? |
My wife and I have gone on century rides but haven't done any touring. Some people think 20 mile rides are long and they can be if you're not prepared. Normally we ride 30 or so miles in the evening and 50+ on the weekends. I see that some folks carry the "kitchen sink" with them and others not so much. Some folks carry gear in case they encounter someone broke down on the trail. i seem to be analyzing my kit frequently. I carried a small chain breaker but now have taken that out of the bag. At least for our 30 mile rides. Zip ties - I have those but am trying to figure out what I would need them for. Had a bad spill last year on a chip seal road and realized I needed a better first aid kit. A nice lady rider pulled out a zip lock bag full of large bandaids and neosporin which was greatly appreciated. I upgraded my first aid kit. Still can be small with bandaids and packets. A lot depends on your bike but adjustable wrenches, combination wrenches, allen wrenches and combo tool come on! A combination tool has all of the things you need but then again they get bulky and heavy too. What say you?
|
Now if you're going a long way without support I can see carrying more of a tool kit.
|
When we started riding it was on a comfort bike, then a flat bar road bike?hybrid (Trek FX) and now a road bike. We had a rack on the Trek with a large bag. Heck my wife was bring eveerything and more. She thought it was a portable cooler with extra drinks, food, knife to cut sandwich, etc. in case we got stranded somewhere on our 30 mile ride. Nice touch but it was weighty. I'm just trying to carry what I really need.
|
Originally Posted by Weatherby
(Post 16668918)
Here is my tool bag contents......
1. One spare tube all talced up in a ziplocked snack bag 2. Patch kit and alcohol wipes to clean talc and mold release off. 3. Long strip of duct tape for booting or patching epidermis 4. Tie wraps 5. one CO2 cartridge 6. Pump 7. Carbon fibre spoke replacement and/or real spokes 8. Quick link to repair chain 9. Spoke tool, chain breaker combo 10. Hex wrenches (3, 4, 5 mm) 11. small chain lube 12. Two tire "irons" 13. TP and cell phone Am I missing anything? What do the rest of you carry? I very rarely have gotten flats but anticipate one tonight after making such a foolhardy statement. I have never broken a brake or shifter cable, so, I don't carry either. I figure one brake would get me to the finish and I could always covert to a Fixie if the rear cable broke or just run the small ring if the front derailluer cable broke or at least that is the plan. |
Originally Posted by SwampDude
(Post 16669264)
Like every good Scout, I'd like to have your repair kit plus a couple hand wipes, band-aids and a Swiss Army knife on short and long rides. My problem is figuring out how to tote this much stuff around. Do you use a large under-seat bag or what? ("Long ride"= panniers?)
Pump: 91 gr Co2: 82 gr.............need to ditch this one but it so nice. All the tools: 216 gr (I did not weigh the duct tape as it is on the frame) Except the pump which is a small one fit next to the water bottle, this all fits easily into a normal, unextended seat bag. Extended, I can add my EN1150 compliant cycling vest after it warms up. |
Originally Posted by SwampDude
(Post 16669264)
Like every good Scout, I'd like to have your repair kit plus a couple hand wipes, band-aids and a Swiss Army knife.............. ("Long ride"= panniers?)
|
I carry zip ties for these reasons
1. To fix a badly damaged sidewall to let me hobble along without rear brakes 2. To attach any broke lighting brackets 3. I figure duct tape and zip ties can patch anything for a while. (I only used them once when my fender mount broke, I zip tied it) |
Originally Posted by Weatherby
(Post 16669555)
I just weighed it all. Wow, this is pushing 14 oz. I could upgrade to a carbon bar but I don't trust them.
Pump: 91 gr Co2: 82 gr.............need to ditch this one but it so nice. All the tools: 216 gr (I did not weigh the duct tape as it is on the frame) Except the pump which is a small one fit next to the water bottle, this all fits easily into a normal, unextended seat bag. Extended, I can add my EN1150 compliant cycling vest after it warms up. |
Wow, 4 CO2 cartridges. I have never had that many flats on a ride and maybe only had two on one ride in my life. I do wear out the palms of my gloves and avoid the garbage on the side of the road.
|
Originally Posted by jsjcat
(Post 16669151)
What do you consider a long ride?
I have seen lots of people break a shifter cable. You can tie the remnants off on a bottle cage, but that's a pain. A spare is almost weightless. I started carrying zip ties when I had to borrow one to keep my seat bag on the bike. They are weightless, but take up a lot of space. I also carry spare lights and batteries. |
Originally Posted by unterhausen
(Post 16670880)
just to be clear, this is the long distance forum (in particular, it's not the touring forum). The definition of long distances for purposes of this forum is any ride over 100 miles in one go. I would say one day, but I'm not going to be riding 1200k in one day, but 4 days maybe. Most of the people that hang out in this forum are randonneurs. Many randonneurs consider 200 kilometers to be a short ride. Walking back is not an option.
I have seen lots of people break a shifter cable. You can tie the remnants off on a bottle cage, but that's a pain. A spare is almost weightless. I started carrying zip ties when I had to borrow one to keep my seat bag on the bike. They are weightless, but take up a lot of space. I also carry spare lights and batteries. |
carradice (super c audax):
basic multi tool (hex and phillips/flat) small adjustable wrench two tire levers two tubes one tire patch kit brake/shifter cable zip ties chain tool chain lube master link electric tape shower cap/plastic bags hand pump kool stop tire bead jack (most everything besides the tire, pump, and bead jack fits in the side pockets or the zippered internal pocket, so main compartment is for clothes) handlebar bag: inhaler camera pen cough drops baby wipes aleve spare AAA batteries packets of chamois cream food reflective vest and jackets and such can be strapped to a bagman support with toe straps. upon reading it sounds like a lot, but i've got the space. in the summer it'll be easier to bag-down, i have a VO baguette barrel-bag that should probably fit most everything that usually goes in the carradice. |
Anybody old enough who remembers having to carry spare axles? Do axles break anymore?
I have a titanium crescent wrench that I used to carry on long rides in case a spoke broke on the wrong side. Why the pedantic hissyfits over what constitutes a long ride, it merely serves to further make this a vapid forum. So, in my mind lots of little 100k and 200k rides weekly culminating in a K-hound awards does not necessarily equate to long distance but within the context of this thread, it is irrelevant. |
to some people, 5 miles is a long ride. Been there myself. Not being pedantic, but people see a topic like this and then join in without realizing the context.
Someday you'll have to introduce yourself. I got to the ride on Saturday a little late and missed the mass start. Just to put the distance thing in more context, on a 400k I had a knee that hurt so bad I one-legged it the last 20 miles. It was an emotional event, but there was no way after 230 miles I was going to make the call of shame. This was one of the experiences that contributed significantly to the formation of my motto, "epic is not a synonym for stupid." But clearly, there is some minimum distance where almost anything can be ridden, or even pushed. Another example happened on the 2009 edition of the Endless Mountains 1240k. A rider had a crank failure, but he had so much time built up that he walked his bike up every hill for a very long distance. |
2 or 3 tubes
Levers Tyre boot Multi tool Swiss army knife A few cable ties Stick on patches Chain lube if over 300k Pump is always on the bike. Might take a spare tyre if the roads are sketchy. I used to carry a shifter cable but after doing my ultegra at home I figure its way too fiddly to manage on the side of the road. |
All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:28 AM. |
Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.