Hermes

Welcome LAJ

revchuck 

I've got a bad case of what the French call jemenfoustisme - I don't give a rodent's rectum about doing anything. I need to replace the chain on my Look, and I'm having a hard time gathering the gumption for that five minute job. Yuk! I hate it when I feel like this. Regardless, I'm going to bed early...maybe I'll stop whining.

Hermes

AZT, I would look at what is the cause for tire to slip. Frictional Force = Normal Force ( your weight)*Coefficient of friction.

Your weight can be considered concentrated at the center of gravity. The taller you are the higher the center of gravity.

The weight of the bike is small compared to your body weight.

To increase the normal force, one has to increase the force on the outside pedal which means leaning the bike into the turn while your body stays more upright putting more force on the outside pedal (increasing the normal force on the tires). If you turn right and lean your weight right with the lean of the bicycle, the normal force and frictional force decreases.

I suspect different bicycles and fit will influence the equation to an extent. However, it may be possible that you new bike and position causes you to want to lean your body differently than before.

However, I do not like the safety margin. If your wheels are sliding, that is NOT good and I think you want more margin than to just make them stop.

Cleave

LAJ, I think I've seen some of your posts elsewhere. Glad this sub forum looks comfortable to you.

AzTR, I wouldn't let one incident in one race cause you too much worry. Yes, a lack of cornering confidence can result in tires -- especially the front -- sliding. Give it a few more races to see if the problem is:

1) Consistent
2) Able to be corrected through cornering technique

If it's consistent, it could be the bike of fit.

A few years ago I bought a Cervélo R3. It was my first really light bike and it was amazingly smooth for a race bike. My first race on it was on a fairly technical crit course in downtown Long Beach. It felt like the bike wouldn't turn in but I rationalized that it was my first race on the bike. However, a few more tight criteriums and a fast descent down GMR made me feel like it was the bike and not me. Having the front end almost completely wash out on a crit corner that I've negotiated thousands of time (yes, there was an unfavorable crosswind) and I'd had enough. This was about a year after I started racing on it. New frame (Lapierre) and the first race was on the same downtown Long Beach course. Almost night and day difference in handling.

Interestingly, Cervélo changed the front geometry on their smaller bikes the next year. I guess I wasn't alone with the handling problems.

Cleave

I don't know why but the R3 was the only race bike that I can remember where the front tire lost traction consistently before the rear tire. I am fine with controlling the bike if the rear tire slips a bit but I hate the feeling of the front tire slipping.

revchuck 

LAJ - Welcome! I'm usually more hospitable, just caught me on a bad night.

Racer Ex 

I've never been the grammar cop. I just shrug and move on.

nacler22

Welcome LAJ, just don't tell Pcad and the rest of the Addiction hooligans about our little oasis of reason and comfortableness.

shovelhd

Hey, no bashing Pcad. He's my sponsor.

nacler22

No worries. I enjoy his type of humor, and would not think of bashing the Pope.

chasm54

LOL. Just don't ask what "bashing the bishop" is slang for in the UK.

nacler22

I'm guessing it has nothing to do with chess.

chasm54

Check, mate...

LAJ

Thank you AZT, Hermes, Cleave, revchuck, nacler22. No worries nacler22, this seems to be a well kept secret. I will also behave.

nacler22

Lol, and well played...... I also enjoy some good, dry, British humor.

O.k. Just be sure to ask Racer Ex to show you the secret handshake and your in.

valygrl

Hi LAJ. They let me in here too.

Cleave

Man, that was quick! We'll see what happens. I have no hypothesis yet for this interesting experiment.

LAJ

Will do, nacler22. In the mean time, I'll just keep reading.

LAJ

Hi valygrl. Smart move on their part.

AzTallRider

Yes, but I'd know that you noticed, because you notice... everything.

Racer Ex 

And yet I can't find my glasses half the time.

AzTallRider

And don't always bring your shoes to a race.

Racer Ex 

They probably changed it without telling me, much as they de-moded me without bothering to tell me. For all I know it's a secret salsa dance at this point. They put a Cat 5 fixie rider in charge of the 33 so it's 50/50 that when I click on my bookmark I don't end up at some German porn site.

Racer Ex 

That cost me in the sprint. Cleave's kid got a kick out of it though.

nacler22

Maybe the beard is gonna be our new mod as well.


Edit: Bookmarks are good to go.