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Old 07-31-14, 10:25 AM
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C60 or Madone 7 ???

My Colnago C40 still remains my favorite for racing, but the time has come to add the latest to the stable.

Engineer here, IMHO a frame is a frame, a simple structure of tubing with a bit of finite element analysis thrown in to address stiffness, weight strength. No rocket science, more a matter of fashion.

I'm leaning towards a C60, but our local Trek dealer is a good friend, so the Madone 7 is a possibility.

My opinion:

Colnago C60, heavy frame, very durable, great paint job, good heritage, maintains its value.

Madone 7, light frame, nice features, some users report cracks, won't hold its value as well as the C60, but almost $2,000 cheaper.

BTW, as far as durability goes, I churned this squirrel through my forks at 26mph, sounded like a jackhammer. Thought I lost the fork, went through it with a magnifying glass, no damage. Not sure if I would be this lucky on something else?

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Old 07-31-14, 08:14 PM
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I have a 2009 Colnago EPS, and a 2011 Madone 6.7/9. I always pick the Colnago unless the weather/road conditions are bad.

It might be because the Colnago just looks so much better, but I think not.


p.s. did you get the squirrel mounted?
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Originally Posted by nacler22
I have a 2009 Colnago EPS, and a 2011 Madone 6.7/9. I always pick the Colnago unless the weather/road conditions are bad.

It might be because the Colnago just looks so much better, but I think not.


p.s. did you get the squirrel mounted?
Ewwwww.....
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If you are thinking Trek, and aren't set on aero, check out the new super-light Emonda. A friend is switching from hi Madone 7 to the Emonda, which is what the Trek team rode in this year's tour. I rode Trek for several years, including the aero 7. Racer-Ex is on Trek this season. Handling of the H2 models is slow compared to most race bikes, and many feel the 7 is very harsh. The Emonda is intended to address some issues people had with the aero 7. I have a (different) friend who works with Trek on product design, and he would say to go Emonda. EMonda is actually more the evolution of the Madone than the aero 7, which was a fairly radical departure. Ex likes the handling of his H1, but he could corner well on a goat cart.

Let me know if you want more from my experience.
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Originally Posted by sarals
Ewwwww.....
At least I didn't ask him how it tasted.
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I like the H1. Pretty well engineered bike, and not all that harsh by my standards.
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Originally Posted by Racer Ex
I like the H1. Pretty well engineered bike, and not all that harsh by my standards.
Didn't bother me, either. I'll give up compliance for stiffness and handling any day. Took awhile to get the handling of my 7 H2 dialed in though. I really needed to be forward and down to get it to corner. Much less conscious effort with my Giant. I couldn't go H1.

My good friend does lots of truly long rides, and social rides are his 'races' - he doesn't race USAC. He finally put 25's on, and lowered his tire pressure to something sane (he'd been running 120+ on those group rides) and it settled down for him. He gets his Emonda in a few weeks, and he's going with 9000 mechanical. LBS owner is a personal friend of his, and we both get pretty great deals.
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Originally Posted by nacler22
I have a 2009 Colnago EPS, and a 2011 Madone 6.7/9. I always pick the Colnago unless the weather/road conditions are bad.

It might be because the Colnago just looks so much better, but I think not.


p.s. did you get the squirrel mounted?
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Ewwwww.....
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At least I didn't ask him how it tasted.
Around here, it would've gone into a gumbo along with numerous brothers and sisters.
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Pre-aero Madone 700:



Aero Madone 700:
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/Since the op doesn't seem too concerned, I'll continue with my thread derailment \

Originally Posted by revchuck
Around here, it would've gone into a gumbo along with numerous brothers and sisters.
I always figured the opportunity cost of dressing such a scrawny rodent, would be awfully high. Must be some good nibbling.
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Originally Posted by nacler22
/Since the op doesn't seem too concerned, I'll continue with my thread derailment \



I always figured the opportunity cost of dressing such a scrawny rodent, would be awfully high. Must be some good nibbling.
It's definitely labor intensive. In the old days when people had more time than money, it worked out. Nowadays it's unusual for squirrel to be used, other than by hunters who prefer wild game.

And to bring this back on topic - I'd go with the C60. I just like the lugged construction, which is why my Look 585 is a keeper.
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/Since the op doesn't seem too concerned, I'll continue with my thread derailment \



I always figured the opportunity cost of dressing such a scrawny rodent, would be awfully high. Must be some good nibbling.
I prefer a New York Strip, medium, done on a charcoal grill 8 minutes and turned over only once.

Leaning towards the C60 now, but there is also the V1-r.
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Colnago C60 or, for a different take, the Bianchi Infinito CV.
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Originally Posted by ColnagoC40
I prefer a New York Strip, medium, done on a charcoal grill 8 minutes and turned over only once.

Leaning towards the C60 now, but there is also the V1-r.
Grilled some Trader Joes tri-tip (thick and tender) over lump charcoal last night. Nom,nom.nom......ahhhh!

Pics when you get your new bike, or it didn't happen. (thumb firmly on the colnago scale)
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