Landing jumps
04-26-05, 03:53 PM
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Landing jumps
Im pretty new to Mountain biking, and there's been this jump I've been trying. I'd say it's probably about 15f long (I'm a newbie, no good at jumps =) ). I have no problem getting the air and distance, but I have crashed a few times landing it and I'm not sure why. The landing is sloped, so do I land withg wheels together or back first? Any other advice is welcomed.
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04-26-05, 04:02 PM
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I'd suggest the back wheel just a hair before the front, because you don't want the front to just be whipped down and you don't want to land soley on the front and endo. I would also try going as fast as you can to get the distance and be sure to pull up before the front wheel falls off the jump.
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It depends on the landing. If the landing is really steep, you'll want to land front wheel a little first or both wheels at the same time- this may require you to push your front wheel down in the air. If the landing is not so steep, then both sheels t the same time or back wheel first is fine.
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OK this question gets asked lots now, someone make one into a sticky NOW....
I am always stuck typing in this answer which is quite long.
Now Stickyfy this thread.
I am always stuck typing in this answer which is quite long.
Originally Posted by Hopper
What kind of bike do you have?
For both HArdtails and Dualies the faster you are moving the smoother the it will feel, but don't over shoot the landing.
OK if it is a hardtail to flat there are a couple of methods.
1) Roll up to landing and lean back as going over the lip. keep front wheel LEVEL with back wheel. As your rear wheel goes off the drop push your back wheel down so it hits the ground way first. As it hits compress legs and lean back and down and GENTLY lower front end down. This method will feel very harsh if the front end slaps down first.
2)Hit drop (the faster the better) as above have body weight back on the bike and keep front wheel level with rear wheel. Keep weight backwards on the bike but land both wheels first. This method is best done with speed, DO NOT DO SLOWLY TO FLAT
3) Do the same as above but land front wheel a little bit before rear wheel. Lots of people will say no this is bad, but damn what is that suspension on the front for?
Hardtail to down ramp
1) Hit drop with weight towards the rear of the bike, keep front wheel level with back wheel. Once the rear wheel is off the drop let the font wheel start to drop, but keep control by keeping weight backwards. Allow it so that bith wheel land at the same time.
2) Same as above, but again a little front wheel first.
Dually to flat
1) Again the faster the smoother. Keep bike level as you take off. Try to land both wheels at thge same time.
2) Same as above but land slightly front wheel first.
NOTE... DO NOT LAND REAR FIRST like the trials style or #1 HT to flat. This will cause rear suspension to compress, slacken head angle and cause forks to slap the ground and not want to compress. End result stuffed bushings or cracked crowns or sheered headtubes.
Dually to Down ramp
1) Keep wheels level as you take off and land both wheels at same time.
2) Keep wheels level as take off and land front wheel slightly first.
Remember do not always depend on a bikes suspension to soften the landing, to ease the shock on your bike and you, use arms and legs as suspension with your bikes. Also there will be some situations where you nee dto use different methods, this is just a guideline, do not take it as gospel and find a method you think suits you best.
Also with duallies different people have different opinions on landing. Some say rear a bit first, but I come form a racing background and hate that. Together is barely ok, front first is best. On a DH or Fr rig you have 7inches up front to make up for it... USE IT. Also when the front is on the ground you have the ability to turn, and the rear wheel will go where the front one goes and in racing/ high speed situations, every microsecond of turning capabilities count.
For both HArdtails and Dualies the faster you are moving the smoother the it will feel, but don't over shoot the landing.
OK if it is a hardtail to flat there are a couple of methods.
1) Roll up to landing and lean back as going over the lip. keep front wheel LEVEL with back wheel. As your rear wheel goes off the drop push your back wheel down so it hits the ground way first. As it hits compress legs and lean back and down and GENTLY lower front end down. This method will feel very harsh if the front end slaps down first.
2)Hit drop (the faster the better) as above have body weight back on the bike and keep front wheel level with rear wheel. Keep weight backwards on the bike but land both wheels first. This method is best done with speed, DO NOT DO SLOWLY TO FLAT
3) Do the same as above but land front wheel a little bit before rear wheel. Lots of people will say no this is bad, but damn what is that suspension on the front for?
Hardtail to down ramp
1) Hit drop with weight towards the rear of the bike, keep front wheel level with back wheel. Once the rear wheel is off the drop let the font wheel start to drop, but keep control by keeping weight backwards. Allow it so that bith wheel land at the same time.
2) Same as above, but again a little front wheel first.
Dually to flat
1) Again the faster the smoother. Keep bike level as you take off. Try to land both wheels at thge same time.
2) Same as above but land slightly front wheel first.
NOTE... DO NOT LAND REAR FIRST like the trials style or #1 HT to flat. This will cause rear suspension to compress, slacken head angle and cause forks to slap the ground and not want to compress. End result stuffed bushings or cracked crowns or sheered headtubes.
Dually to Down ramp
1) Keep wheels level as you take off and land both wheels at same time.
2) Keep wheels level as take off and land front wheel slightly first.
Remember do not always depend on a bikes suspension to soften the landing, to ease the shock on your bike and you, use arms and legs as suspension with your bikes. Also there will be some situations where you nee dto use different methods, this is just a guideline, do not take it as gospel and find a method you think suits you best.
Also with duallies different people have different opinions on landing. Some say rear a bit first, but I come form a racing background and hate that. Together is barely ok, front first is best. On a DH or Fr rig you have 7inches up front to make up for it... USE IT. Also when the front is on the ground you have the ability to turn, and the rear wheel will go where the front one goes and in racing/ high speed situations, every microsecond of turning capabilities count.
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Also, as you get more confident in yourself, landing flat and bending your knees bigtime will help absorb the landing. Something I feel that helps, is trying to hit smaller jumps, and landing without moving your forks at all. If you can perfect smaller jumps by being able to land soft enough not to make the forks go down in their stroke, then it will make the bigger jumps that much easier.
