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Old 04-26-05, 10:11 PM
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Potential mess for our local trails

https://www.tampabaylive.com/stories/...26rescue.shtml
While I applaud the efforts of the Hillsborough Fire/Rescue squad. This MORON was out riding without a helmet riding what looks like a X-mart special on one of the more difficult trails in the park.
Park regulations demand that you wear a helmet on the trails for your own safety.
I have no sympathy for this guy what so ever as there are maps availiable noting the difficulty of the trail, and the helmet rule is there for a reason.
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Old 04-26-05, 10:13 PM
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See people this is why department store bikes are not to be taken offroad and why one should always wear a helmet when riding. That sucks Alafia is a great trail system.
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Old 04-26-05, 10:14 PM
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It still gets me why people dont wear helmets. Even wurse is when they dont wear them on a motorcycle. But now they make helmets with a carbon fiber weave so maybe even fashion lovers will be attracted
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Old 04-26-05, 10:15 PM
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isnt there even a sticker on dept store bikes saying in black bold letters but rather small
"not intended for offroad use"?
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Old 04-26-05, 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by phantomcow2
isnt there even a sticker on dept store bikes saying in black bold letters but rather small
"not intended for offroad use"?
Most of the one's I've looked at yes.

Edit: I just looked at the video again and magnified it. The guy was on a Royce Union
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Old 04-26-05, 10:21 PM
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Bad job rider, good job rescue squad.
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Old 04-26-05, 10:25 PM
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Bad job rider, good job rescue squad.
If anything I'm more comfortable riding out there now after seeing the piece on the 11 o'clock news. Good to know they've got my back. That plus the station is pretty close to the trail as well
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Yeah, it's good to know that they'll make that much of an effort to save you.
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Originally Posted by phantomcow2
It still gets me why people dont wear helmets. Even wurse is when they dont wear them on a motorcycle. But now they make helmets with a carbon fiber weave so maybe even fashion lovers will be attracted
Beats me too. Dunno why, it's plain stupid.
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Old 04-27-05, 09:30 AM
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I think NH law says you dont need a helmet on the motorcycle, so i see it all the time. Its so funny wheny ou go to laconia, these guys wear these all leather tight suits with flaps hanging out, it would suck to get one of those caught somewhere.
But i guess we cyclists have spandex...
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too bad he didn't kill himself...at least then he'd be up for a darwin award. although, i suppose that would mean even more trouble. at least this tool made the conscious decision to not wear a helmet.

i was taking a break on a trail in virginia and a guy rides by on his rigid pulling his daughter along on one of those trailer bikes. the guy has no helmet and his daughter's helmet was literally on her head sideways. i felt bad for the girl.
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What an idiot! I hope they charge him for the cost of the rescue.
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I hate how responsible riders seem to get roped in with idiots like this. Best of luck down there, Raiyn.
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Old 04-27-05, 01:53 PM
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I find this thread disturbing in the number of people who are saying this guy got what he deserved and should NOT have been rescued. Sure he wasn't wearing a helmet, dumb move, but *news flash* plenty of people still get injured while riding with helmets. Those people are eligible for rescue while those without are not? Those with high $ bikes are eligible for rescue while those without are not? What about "freeriders" who take extreme risk in the middle of no where, should they be rescued or just nominated for the Darwin Awards?

Furthermore regarding charging people for the cost of their rescue, is that realy what you want? What if you break a leg in the middle of nowhere, you want to pay the tens of thousands of dollars for your rescue? What about if you get attacked by a wild animal in the middle of nowhere, plenty of people would consider even being out in the backcountry worthy of a Darwin Award nomination.

Finally those chastising this guy for not wearing a helmet have to realize the can of worms you are potentially opening. Other "safety nazies" may have other ideas, like banning MTB all together to save society money on rescue and medical.
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Originally Posted by KrisA
I find this thread disturbing in the number of people who are saying this guy got what he deserved and should NOT have been rescued.
Nobody here said that
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Sure he wasn't wearing a helmet, dumb move, but *news flash* plenty of people still get injured while riding with helmets.
While this is true, this is a State Park where the rule is helmets are MANDATORY
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Those with high $ bikes are eligible for rescue while those without are not?
He was riding beyond his abilities on a bike that was inferior for the trail conditions. Nowhere did we say anything of the sort you are insinuating. He should NOT have been on that trail, on that bike, and without a helmet. PERIOD
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What about "freeriders" who take extreme risk in the middle of no where, should they be rescued or just nominated for the Darwin Awards?
Freeriders know the risks they are taking and take any and all needed precautions including body armor and full-face helmets.
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Furthermore regarding charging people for the cost of their rescue, is that realy what you want? What if you break a leg in the middle of nowhere, you want to pay the tens of thousands of dollars for your rescue? What about if you get attacked by a wild animal in the middle of nowhere, plenty of people would consider even being out in the backcountry worthy of a Darwin Award nomination.
For violating the rules of the park the state/ county shouldn't have to be liable for his stupidity. If I break a leg out in the middle of nowhere chances are excellent that either myself or someone in my party will know enough to be able to splint it up, a rescue squad wouldn't be needed for a simple fracture.
Furthermore what the hell does a wild animal attack have to do with this story.?
Again you're grasping at straws
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Finally those chastising this guy for not wearing a helmet have to realize the can of worms you are potentially opening. Other "safety nazies" may have other ideas, like banning MTB all together to save society money on rescue and medical.
Again Sparky it's MANDATORY to wear a helmet while riding the trails out there. This dip**** was riding on trails he was unfamiliar with, on a bike that wasn't up to the task, and without a helmet. He was an accident waiting to happen and guess what it did. I do hope he recovers, but I have no sympathy for him because the Park system and the local MTB club (S.W.A.M.P.) has taken all prudent precautions needed to inform trail users of the hazards involved and the skill level needed to ride EACH and EVERY trail out there.
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LMAO im LOVIN the coke/water bottle and bike lock.....never know when those theives will cath you with your pants down on the trails.......doo mas
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Raiyn, I'm with you here. Even w/o a law you should wear a helmet. Lets see: rocks, trees, mountain, and speed. Yeah, you might want a helmet. What a moron.
As for the lady who feels we should all stay at home in bed so we don't hurt ourselves, c'mon, don't let one idiot make you think we all don't take precautions. Helemts being the least of them.
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What an idiot.
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