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Old 04-28-05, 06:45 PM
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Bar ends ?

I never have had bar ends on my mtb and was curious as to whether most of you use them? Are they a must-have, waste of money ..... or somewhere in between?
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Somewhere in between in my book. I don't use them. Of course I also have riser handlebars and using both is supposedly taboo (though I saw a guy with handlebars that rose about 5" and he had them on too, so it's personal preference). If you think you need them, or hades, just want them, go for it. But they can be very worth the money.
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Old 04-29-05, 12:23 AM
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I dislike them intensely particularly on riser bars
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They are nice to have if you are in to long epic rides because thy will give more places to put your hands but other then that I do not use them. As mentioned, it is pesonal preferance though.

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I used them...then I didn't...then I did again...now I don't.

When I rode in California, where 5-10 mile continuous climbs were the norm, they were indespensible. I moved to Georgia several years later and built a new bike but didn't install bar ends. I rode mainly on the roads and after a few weeks, bought bar ends again because of the long climbs. After getting back on dirt, I've since removed them because Georgia trails are very different than CA trails. Instead of 4, 30 minute climbs, Georgia trails are more like 30, one-minute climbs. I found I was never on the bar ends because the terrain was changing too rapidly to keep switching positions.

I think it's terrain based. If you're in an area where you can see yourself spending a long time on the bar ends with no need to keep dropping back onto the bars to shift or brake, they're definitely a benefit. If the terrian changes rapidly you probably won't be moving your hands up to your bar ends very often.
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I find them indispensible for medium to long climbs and for long rides in general.

They not only give me extra hand positions, bar ends allow me to comfortably position my center of gravity forward and lower to assist climbing. Opening the chest with this wide arm stance improves breathing.
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Old 04-29-05, 10:17 AM
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The Stumpjumper I plan to buy does not come with riser bars (i don't think), so I plan to start without any bar ends and see how it goes from there.

That brings up another question ........ on a bike like the stumpy, would riser bars be a nice mod to think about versus bar ends??? I'm a midwest rider, so not alot of long climbs, but I do plan to enter some events which have courses built on ski hills, so there will be some significant climbing there?

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i prefer bar ends due to it opening up my chest a bit by moving my arms out and allows me to get more power to the pedals IMO. Plus I love having an extra riding position.
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i'm probably going to add bar ends to my bike.
more climbing power and more hand positions, as many have said already. i know i'll use them because sometimes i find myself only holding onto the edge of the handlebars with my palms facing in now on some climbs.

i want yellow ones.
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Originally Posted by juniorcaveman
i'm probably going to add bar ends to my bike.
more climbing power and more hand positions, as many have said already. i know i'll use them because sometimes i find myself only holding onto the edge of the handlebars with my palms facing in now on some climbs.

i want yellow ones.
I would recommend the Cane Creek Ergo Bar Ends.....with a set of ODI Lock On Grips... Simply amazing. Not to mention they look flush...pic

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Originally Posted by PWRDbyTRD
I would recommend the Cane Creek Ergo Bar Ends.....with a set of ODI Lock On Grips... Simply amazing. Not to mention they look flush...pic

Those things look a little too 'alien autopsy' for my tastes.
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Originally Posted by jim-bob
Those things look a little too 'alien autopsy' for my tastes.
Incredibly comfortable, comforms to my hand very well. Not to mention it's grippy so you don't have hot or cold metal based on the weather
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Old 04-29-05, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by PWRDbyTRD
I would recommend the Cane Creek Ergo Bar Ends.....with a set of ODI Lock On Grips... Simply amazing. Not to mention they look flush...pic
i was looking at those. hadn't seen them on a bike yet, but they look pretty solid on yours.





edit: just getting that pic out.
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here is another pic of them... I have since then leveled them down a bit more

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I like them on a flat bar, but not a riser bar. I have broad shoulders and ribcage, so it helps to open me up a bit more for the climbs. Comfy, too.
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Back in the day big moose-antler sized bar ends were the standard.

As retro-bad as bars that big would look now, every time I plow into a tree or a fencepost and jam my hand between the brake lever and handlebars (I'm not the greatest judge of the width of my bike) I long for the old days when we had big purple aluminum things for, among other things, hand protection.
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That brings up another question ........ on a bike like the stumpy, would riser bars be a nice mod to think about versus bar ends???
What about changing to riser bars ... What are the positives and negatives? Does frame geometry determine whether or not they are beneficial?
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I think they are a fantastic upgrade, they help greatly on climbs. Im running WCS ones i got monday
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I NEED barends but then again I'm a retrogrouch who got my first Mtn Bike in 1984.
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Originally Posted by Stubacca
I like them on a flat bar, but not a riser bar. I have broad shoulders and ribcage, so it helps to open me up a bit more for the climbs. Comfy, too.
Okay, this brings up a question that has been bugging me for a long time. I'm far from new to mountain biking ("Why, I've been mountain bikin' since you were just a pup, you young whippersnapper!", says the crotchety old man.) and I've had bar ends on my handle bars since they came out - probably the late '80s. But I've always used flat bars, usually in a very low position. But I have yet to understand why bar ends are so forbidden on riser bars! I mean, after all, riser bars are just a way of having a higher ride position without having a large angle stem.

There is no more stress put on the bars by having bar ends then on conventional straight bars. And I find that riser bars are damned uncomfortable without bar ends. The angle of the risers I've tried is just wrong for riding very far. Bar ends at least allows me to move my hands around a little.

So, are is there really a good reason for not having bar ends on risers or are we just afraid that the kids will laugh at us for being geezers?
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Originally Posted by cyccommute
Okay, this brings up a question that has been bugging me for a long time. I'm far from new to mountain biking ("Why, I've been mountain bikin' since you were just a pup, you young whippersnapper!", says the crotchety old man.) and I've had bar ends on my handle bars since they came out - probably the late '80s. But I've always used flat bars, usually in a very low position. But I have yet to understand why bar ends are so forbidden on riser bars! I mean, after all, riser bars are just a way of having a higher ride position without having a large angle stem.

There is no more stress put on the bars by having bar ends then on conventional straight bars. And I find that riser bars are damned uncomfortable without bar ends. The angle of the risers I've tried is just wrong for riding very far. Bar ends at least allows me to move my hands around a little.

So, are is there really a good reason for not having bar ends on risers or are we just afraid that the kids will laugh at us for being geezers?

There's the "cool" factor for me, but I also found that I don't need barends when I switched to risers. Control also seems better. My riser bars just feel more natural and, since they're wider, I can adjust my grip quite a bit without fatigue. Don't know about an all day ride or really long climbs, but they work really well for XC rides up to 3-4 hours.
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Originally Posted by cyccommute
I have yet to understand why bar ends are so forbidden on riser bars!
That's an odd one.

Some will correctly point out that riser bars tend to be wider, and that coupled with the extra bends (which are added weak points in the bar) make risers unsuitable for bar ends.

But I say hogwash. The ride-to-ride abuse that gets dished out by a riser bar user is on par or greater than what a straight "XC bar" sees. If folks thought risers were inherently weak, they wouldn't use them.

On top of that, you're more likely to find super lightweight triple butted aluminum can wall construction on a flat XC bar than on a riser, and you'll rarely see manufacturer's disclaimers not to use ends on those.

I think bar ends have simply been the victim of fashion, perpetuated by the all-knowing MBA, and others have come up with excuses for justification.

As I stated above, bar ends make MORE SENSE on the more upright riding position associated with riser bars. Everyone is going to have their personal preferences due to the experiences they've had and the type of terrain they ride, but I don't believe that risers are in any danger of fading away, despite the fact they don't look cool.


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hahaa...that's their reasoning? they're too weak for it?
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I had some bar ends on my bike for some time and then it occurred to me that I never used them; so I took them off and saved the weight. I think they'd be important in non-technical moderately-long climbs where you don't need tons of control. The non-traditional ones pictured above look like they're worth some investigation, though.
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Originally Posted by Speedub.Nate
Some will correctly point out that riser bars tend to be wider, and that coupled with the extra bends (which are added weak points in the bar) make risers unsuitable for bar ends.
The fact that risers are wider is just one of the problems I have with them. Coupled with a slack head angle and a higher head tube, I find they make the bike harder to handle than a flat bar. It like going back to my Miyata Trail Runner with the the old triangulated bull moose bars. It went downhill great but the front wheel would wander over three states on a climb.

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I think bar ends have simply been the victim of fashion, perpetuated by the all-knowing MBA, and others have come up with excuses for justification.
That's my point exactly. An amazing amount of the mountain bike world is driven by fashion, not function. Bikes are built and spec'ted for racing and not for the rest of us.
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