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Old 04-27-05, 10:50 PM
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F/S concerns...

I am buying my first F/S bike and keep hearing mixed reviews on the sagging that occurs when coming out of the saddle or doing any cross country riding. I live for the downhill but can't escape the xc, uphill, or street riding (have to get up there somehow). Whats the difference in F/S styles. I am 6'3", 240 if that makes any difference. I just want to be able to play all over the mountain.....need some advice...thanks
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If you are an avid DH, and want a F/S then you can't go wrong with the Specialized Big Hit
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Old 04-27-05, 11:09 PM
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That is one mean looking beast.The only problem is that I am going f/s but I only have about $1500 can so I am limited. Whats the deal with the sag on f/s. Is it really that bad? I guess it varies from bike to bike. Oh, and is 34 lbs considered a heavy bike? I am hoping the bike will help me lose a couple lbs so maybe it will even out!
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34 is not considered heavy, atleast not for a FR/DH FS bike.

As for sag, there should be some. My XC bike has about 5% sag(run the shock very stiff for XC) and around 30% sag for DH/FR. Poor XC bike, it's going to break one of these days.
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Actually after my last post I got thinking, and if you want a F/S bike that you can do everything on, you'd be hard pressed to find anything better than the Trek Bruiser 3, in your price range. Very tight bike IMO.

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I'm liking the Kona coiler. MSRP is $1600, so a little bit over budget, but I'm sure you can find one <$1500.

https://www.konaworld.com/shopping_ca...6&parentid=182
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Old 04-27-05, 11:22 PM
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DK Drop..thanks for the advice. Have you heard anything about the Devinci Chilipepper? www.devinci.com I still ride some cross country as I get to the trailheads so I don't know if that makes a huge diff or not but I just don't want to feel like i am on a trampoline when I am off the hill.
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I'm liking the Kona coiler. MSRP is $1600, so a little bit over budget, but I'm sure you can find one <$1500.

https://www.konaworld.com/shopping_ca...6&parentid=182
Yeah it $1500 canadian though. The coiler would be great though but its about $2300 up here. Besides I can't say as I like the Robin Egg Blue colour. My buddies might just throw me down the hill and suspension wouldn't mean anything
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Old 04-27-05, 11:27 PM
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You'd be better off with Specialized
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Anything designed for FR/DH is going to have alot of sag, only way out of it that I can think of is a shock with something like the Fox ProPedal or to just adjust the shock to be stiff for the XC you have to ride to get to the trail and then adjust it again later.

I don't know anything about the frames, but the components look good. Only thing I don't like is the brakes, Hayes mechs are definately NOT the best brakes out there. I only recommend Avid BB-5/BB-7 brakes.

edit: didn't see you were in Canada, sorry about that.
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I don't know much about Devinci bikes, looks like the Chilipepper has lower end sram components, where the B3 has high end Bontrager componants (Big Earl), the only thing I might change out on the B3 would be the RST rear shock but I have rode a B3 for a full day, I'm 6'2" 220lbs, and I didn't feel that it took any more out of me to power it around than my hard tail 4300. I guess it's all a matter of feel, try and take each for a quick rip, and se what suits you better whats more comfy, things like that. Also the B# has a Manitu with 150 travel, and the CP has 130. But then the CP has a vanilla rear shock, and the B3 has that RST, so like I said, it comes down to price tag, and personal choice.
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That Bruiser 3 looks great actually. It seems to be about he right price $1100 u.s. and seems to be all about being a strong bike. The CP I am looking at has 5inches in the front which I think should be good as I am coming off a 6 year old Schwinn hardtail with about an inch and a half of "sometimes" cushion so anything will seem like a the best bike ever though tobe fair my ride and I have had a good time together and she has carried me well. So I am going to try a Trek for a spin and see whats better. Can these bikes still get up over logs and rocks or does the rear shock take that part of the fun away? I am moving to a new house and there is a little bike park there with mini trials set up. It would be a shame to not be able to play.
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sorry I left there for a bit.My son is teething...you know
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yeah they can still go up over logs and stuff. Just takes a bit more effort to hop things because they are going to be heavier than your shwinn.
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Its expected I guess, I would gladly trade playing on a log to throwing myself down a mountain. I won't blame the bike either. I am strong enough to throw a bike around so in the end it comes down to mind over matter. Me vs. The Mountain. Ding Ding
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Originally Posted by Raiyn
You'd be better off with Specialized
Well thanks mister obvious, but it's also a few $$$$ more, an not in his price range. It's like someone buying a Chev. Cavalier, and you say, "well you'd be better off with a Corvette"
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Well thanks mister obvious, but it's also a few $$$$ more, an not in his price range. It's like someone buying a Chev. Cavalier, and you say, "well you'd be better off with a Corvette"
Specialized has a lot of different bikes in different price ranges.
They range from Cavaliers to Corvettes. Think about what I actually typed I said a brand not a model. I never said THE Specialized Sparky
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a) I hate the new specialized site. I hate how it navigates how slow it is and arg. I just hate it. Flash sites blow...
b) there is a bighit, proven, in your range. A bighit single pivot

https://www.specialized.com/bc/SBCBkM...&bikeTab=story

Should be in the 1000$ range american. the bruiser is a heavy beast. I didn't like it very much. And its trek.
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Originally Posted by Maelstrom
a) I hate the new specialized site. I hate how it navigates how slow it is and arg. I just hate it. Flash sites blow...
b) there is a bighit, proven, in your range. A bighit single pivot

https://www.specialized.com/bc/SBCBkM...&bikeTab=story

Should be in the 1000$ range american. the bruiser is a heavy beast. I didn't like it very much. And its trek.
I completely agree about the new website. The old one was so much more easy to navigate
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a) I hate the new specialized site. I hate how it navigates how slow it is and arg. I just hate it. Flash sites blow...

couldn't agree more. it's irritating.
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Originally Posted by Raiyn
I completely agree about the new website. The old one was so much more easy to navigate
Glad I'm not the only one who hates the new site. And Raiyn don't let that complainer get to you. You've certainly helped me out with quite a few decisions in the Mountain bike section. What's this you mentioned about the Specialized sparky by the way? Is it new for 2005 or only in development? Sounds kinda wussy compared to names like stumpjumper and rockhopper.
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What's this you mentioned about the Specialized sparky by the way?
You should get your own show.
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hey, thanks for all the help. I looked at the Specialized site ( not specialized in Web design thats for sure) and nothing really seemed to grab my attention. I do think its between the Bruiser and The Devinci CP. My brain hurts. I think its going to be the Devinci. Hey Raiyn...what the heck do you ride in Florida...and go Canucks go too!!
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Originally Posted by Maelstrom
a) I hate the new specialized site. I hate how it navigates how slow it is and arg. I just hate it. Flash sites blow...
b) there is a bighit, proven, in your range. A bighit single pivot

https://www.specialized.com/bc/SBCBkM...&bikeTab=story

Should be in the 1000$ range american. the bruiser is a heavy beast. I didn't like it very much. And its trek.
Woooooo..wait a minute. Youi know the shore, you're from the area. "How heavy is the Bruiser? Whats wrong with Trek?
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I just don't like trek. They have made a bike yet to convince me they are shore/whistler ready. The session looks promising.

The bruiser is good value, but the frame is heavy. I don't personally believe it is proven strength wise (it is new) and the specialized has (which you should be able to get for the same price)

Another option is sportcheck. 99% of the time I don't recommend big sport stores but ironhorse has a long term contract with sportcheck they can't get out of. The yakuza and 2004 ironhorse frames should be in stores so you might be able to find a smoking deal. I usually go to park royal (head and shoulders better than the one right downtown) and they have the higher end bikes. Damn good quality, strong and the sgs's (while heavy) are built around the fsr horst linkage. So they pedal well. You have other proven options before you need to start testing the new trek lineup (this is their first real year in freeride I might add)...

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