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Old 04-30-05, 12:26 PM
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I finished degreasing my cassette, chain, and derailleur and need help choosing a lube. I ride mostly wet conditions (Southeast US) and it is often very humid and hot--90's. Trail surfaces are a mix of loose and clay hardpack. I've mostly heard of Tri Flow and White Lightning. Also, where would be the best place to purchase it online because I don't like my LBS. Thanks in advance.

Also, what would you recomment putting in the avid mechs where the ball bearings are housed?
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Tri flow is easy to find...
https://www.jensonusa.com/store/produ...2+Oz+Lube.aspx

For the wet conditions I use this
https://www.universalcycles.com/shopp...9&category=208

For bearings, i have a tube of tri-flow synthetic grease w/ teflon.
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White lightning is good stuff, but kind of expensive. It's different from other lubes in that it goes on as a liquid, but dries to a sort of lube-impregnated wax. This is great because it doesn't pick up dust and dirt like stickier 'oil' lubes. It also seems to withstand water better.
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I've used White Lightning on all my bikes since the day I got a free sample of it at a race a LOOOONG time ago.

From 105deg dry, dusty days in Topanga State Park to tire-eating red clay mudholes in Georgia, this stuff rocks.
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Sorry, I really don't mean to hijack this thread but what exactly is the correct way to apply lube to the chain/cassette/fork? I have one of these bottles with an end that lets lube drip out so it's easy to apply where and how much I want. Thing is, is there a lubing "technique"?
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i've picked up three packs of white lightning at performance for 9 bucks.
i think it's usually around 12 bucks for a three pack.
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Originally Posted by Drunken Chicken
Sorry, I really don't mean to hijack this thread but what exactly is the correct way to apply lube to the chain/cassette/fork? I have one of these bottles with an end that lets lube drip out so it's easy to apply where and how much I want. Thing is, is there a lubing "technique"?
Position the bottle so that it drips lube on the inside of the chain. Do not apply it from the outside, its useless there and it just collects dirt. Lightly squeeze the bottle so that just a steady trickle comes out and pedal backwards for 10-15 seconds. Wipe off any excess, too much lube means faster chain wear because it just collects dirt.
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oh, and i think tri flow is the best lube out there. Its really cheap and it sticks. I use it for chains, pivot points and cables. Anywhere that needs lube and grease isn't it.
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Originally Posted by rockhopper1080
Also, what would you recomment putting in the avid mechs where the ball bearings are housed?
Nothing. wait until you do a full tear down service as you need to disassemble the calipers to do this right
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Originally Posted by Raiyn
Nothing. wait until you do a full tear down service as you need to disassemble the calipers to do this right
I'm in the process of doing that right now.
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Originally Posted by rockhopper1080
I'm in the process of doing that right now.
Then follow these instructions and use Marine Trailer Bearing grease ($3 Home Depot) use a VERY SMALL AMOUNT as you don't want any seepage
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Originally Posted by phantomcow2
Position the bottle so that it drips lube on the inside of the chain. Do not apply it from the outside, its useless there and it just collects dirt. Lightly squeeze the bottle so that just a steady trickle comes out and pedal backwards for 10-15 seconds. Wipe off any excess, too much lube means faster chain wear because it just collects dirt.
Inside? I'm getting confused here...
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Originally Posted by Drunken Chicken
Inside? I'm getting confused here...
Inside meaning on the silver rollers not the outer plates
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Originally Posted by Raiyn
Inside meaning on the silver rollers not the outer plates
Right, thanks.
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Yea its what Raiyn said. This is where the real friction occurs, and if the outside of soaked with lube the crap frm your front tire will stick
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Originally Posted by Drunken Chicken
Inside? I'm getting confused here...
When the chain is rotating around you have centripetal forces that want to fling stuff off of the chain. If you apply the lube on the inside "rind" of the chain, you're basically allowing the lube to fling through the chain.

In karting lubing is super important (12,000 RPM on ~12:90 gearing) and this is hw we lube.
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