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Old 07-08-17, 03:46 PM
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What fork should I get?

Hello I recently purchased a 2005 GF cake 3 dlx gs used from craigslist and wanted some suggestions on a decent budget fork that would work on this bike I won't be doing anything crazy just casual trails and would like a lockout also I am pretty new to the whole MB scene so trying to keep it simple Thx for your time

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Originally Posted by pathseeker56
Hello I recently purchased a 2005 GF cake 3 dlx gs used from craigslist and wanted some suggestions on a decent budget fork that would work on this bike I won't be doing anything crazy just casual trails and would like a lockout also I am pretty new to the whole MB scene so trying to keep it simple Thx for your time
What fork is on there now?
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Originally Posted by Kapusta
What fork is on there now?
Manitou Black Elite, 120mm
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Originally Posted by pathseeker56
Manitou Black Elite, 120mm
If you want to keep this cheap but want something good, you might consider an older Rockshox Reba and plan to do a re-build which is actually fairly easy if you have reasonable mechanical skills and can follow directions.
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Suntour XCR32 Air. Price ~$200
https://www.walmart.com/ip/SR-Suntou...&wl13=&veh=sem

CHeck that you have 1 1/18" threadless steerer and your existing axle to crown measurement. This is the only new air spring fork suitable for a 26in wheel. The price is decent also.
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Originally Posted by gsa103
Suntour XCR32 Air. Price ~$200

CHeck that you have 1 1/18" threadless steerer and your existing axle to crown measurement. This is the only new air spring fork suitable for a 26in wheel. The price is decent also.
It sucks looking up info on the parts of this bike can't find much detailed info so I would have to measure it out to get the axle to crown but what about the threadless steerer? Also why air and not spring seems the cost jumps when buying air
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Originally Posted by Kapusta
If you want to keep this cheap but want something good, you might consider an older Rockshox Reba and plan to do a re-build which is actually fairly easy if you have reasonable mechanical skills and can follow directions.
I found a roxshox reba on craigslist near me but it won't let me post links yet only issue I see is that it is a 27.5 and not a 26 could that be an issue??
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Originally Posted by pathseeker56
I found a roxshox reba on craigslist near me but it won't let me post links yet only issue I see is that it is a 27.5 and not a 26 could that be an issue??
Yes it is an issue but the bigger issue is that is going to be a tapered steerer fork and you need a straight. You have two dated specs on that bike making it hard to find new forks. You need 26er and straight steerer neither of which are really used anymore at least on anything other than lowend bikes. What is wrong with the current fork?
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Originally Posted by Canker
Yes it is an issue but the bigger issue is that is going to be a tapered steerer fork and you need a straight. You have two dated specs on that bike making it hard to find new forks. You need 26er and straight steerer neither of which are really used anymore at least on anything other than lowend bikes. What is wrong with the current fork?
The current fork has no lockout is the main reason and not much adjust ability . The one I found seems to be a strait fork doesn't look tapered but still can't post url's or i would link it. I have found a lot of strait forks that are 26 just not sure what exact specs will fit this bike cause there seems to be so many options
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Originally Posted by pathseeker56
It sucks looking up info on the parts of this bike can't find much detailed info so I would have to measure it out to get the axle to crown but what about the threadless steerer? Also why air and not spring seems the cost jumps when buying air
Air forks are adjustable to rider weight, lighter, and generally perform much much better than coil forks. Coil forks are pretty much reserved for low-end bikes.

Axle to crown is easy to measure, if your current fork is within ~10mm of the new fork, it won't change the handling much.

Threadless steerer just means that you have a stem that bolts onto the steerer, as opposed to a quill stem, where the stem extends down into the headtube as a single piece. That's probably what you have.
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Originally Posted by pathseeker56
I found a roxshox reba on craigslist near me but it won't let me post links yet only issue I see is that it is a 27.5 and not a 26 could that be an issue??
You need 26".

27,5" will mess with the geometry of the bike.

You will probably want to look for an older Reba. Also pay attention to how much travel the fork has. Try to stick to 120mm.
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Originally Posted by gsa103
Air forks are adjustable to rider weight, lighter, and generally perform much much better than coil forks. Coil forks are pretty much reserved for low-end bikes.

Axle to crown is easy to measure, if your current fork is within ~10mm of the new fork, it won't change the handling much.

Threadless steerer just means that you have a stem that bolts onto the steerer, as opposed to a quill stem, where the stem extends down into the headtube as a single piece. That's probably what you have.
I would have to dissemble the steerer to find out if it is quill or not? Or is there a distinctive way to tell and if it is quill would the new fork have to be a specific way would I have to search for a keyword spec?
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Originally Posted by Kapusta
You need 26".

27,5" will mess with the geometry of the bike.
Not necessarily. The only things that matters are the axle to crown and offset. So a 100mm 27.5 fork could easily be very close to a 120mm 26in fork.
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Originally Posted by gsa103
Not necessarily. The only things that matters are the axle to crown and offset. So a 100mm 27.5 fork could easily be very close to a 120mm 26in fork.
Sure, but then he would have a 100mm fork instead of a 120mm fork.
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Originally Posted by pathseeker56
I would have to dissemble the steerer to find out if it is quill or not? Or is there a distinctive way to tell and if it is quill would the new fork have to be a specific way would I have to search for a keyword spec?
If it is a Manatou Black from 2005 then it is threadless.

You can tell by looking at the stem. Google pics of threadless stems quill stems and you will see the difference.

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Originally Posted by Kapusta
Sure, but then he would have a 100mm fork instead of a 120mm fork.
Yes, but a good 100mm fork is far better than a bad 120mm fork.
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Originally Posted by gsa103
Yes, but a good 100mm fork is far better than a bad 120mm fork.
Then don't get a bad one.
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Originally Posted by pathseeker56
It sucks looking up info on the parts of this bike can't find much detailed info so I would have to measure it out to get the axle to crown but what about the threadless steerer? Also why air and not spring seems the cost jumps when buying air
I think you may need some clarity on the terms "air" and "spring".

All forks have springs. Air is one type of spring.

The other common spring is a steel coil (There may be rubbery elastomers still used in really low end dept store stuff, I don't know)

An air spring is more costly to produce as it requires greater precision to work with minimal friction and not leak. A coil spring is dead simple and is pretty hard to mess up in excecution.

The main advantage of an air spring is that it is lighter. It has no overall performance advantage over coil. In fact, "coil-like feel" is still often-used as high praise for air shocks or forks. No one has ever used "air-like feel" to advertise their coil fork.

But "feel" and the nuances of the differences in spring rate curves is hard to market. Weight is an easy number to advertise.

On a number of high end shocks and forks, the overall performance difference between coil and air has become negligible. One is not really better, they are just different. But because of the weight difference, every new model year more forks drop coil models from the lineup.
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