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Old 06-14-05, 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Maelstrom
xc and all mountain are pretty dang similar. If you are smooth and comfortable and not 280 pounds you could easily get away with a xc bike.

If you are like me, 280, not so smooth and rides really aggressively (drops etc...) then an all mountain bike is more suited.

All mountain is a catch phrase imo. It is there so we have to deal with it, but it is no different than xc 5 years ago.

Now xc racing is a whole different storey. Totally different kind of trails as far as I have seen on the WC circuit.
I think you have to admit that the rise in the AM term stems primarily from that fact that marketters or some consumers felt the term XC meant weak and didn't appeal to their manly sensibilities so they pushed for a new term. What was left was XC as seen from the racing standpoint which admittedly was highly populated by ultralight components that sacrificed a lot of strength. and as you said, it does depend a lot on the rider too. I'm 150lbs after a big holiday dinner and although I sometimes ride aggressively I tend to be more conservative these days and pick the cleaner lines so I can get away with riding what some would classify as AM or sometimes even FR conditions using XC equipment.
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Originally Posted by telenick
It's all the yacking and no riding that's getting me irritated. Work is done for the day... time to go ride.
Good idea. I think I'll follow it. Pees Out!
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Originally Posted by khuon
I think you have to admit that the rise in the AM term stems primarily from that fact that marketters or some consumers felt the term XC meant weak and didn't appeal to their manly sensibilities so they pushed for a new term. What was left was XC as seen from the racing standpoint which admittedly was highly populated by ultralight components that sacrificed a lot of strength. and as you said, it does depend a lot on the rider too. I'm 150lbs after a big holiday dinner and although I sometimes ride aggressively I tend to be more conservative these days and pick the cleaner lines so I can get away with riding what some would classify as AM or sometimes even FR conditions using XC equipment.

Definately. It was a term that had a place. In my head a few years ago I did it

xc racing and xc. Now that has changed to xc and all mountain. Nothings changed, just the terms haha
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Originally Posted by Maelstrom
Definately. It was a term that had a place. In my head a few years ago I did it

xc racing and xc. Now that has changed to xc and all mountain. Nothings changed, just the terms haha
A rose by any other name...

Okay. It's past 5PM. I'm really bugging out before my phone rings again. See you all later unless the bear that's been hiding out in my local trails gets to me.

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Originally Posted by Maelstrom
Nothings changed, just the terms
Ain't that the truth.
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ok i fell confident. thanks for all the "yacking"

itl be in that rigs thread next week
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Cool, I'll look for it.
Mine will be too!
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Originally Posted by jo5iah
Emma Long is what I'd consider the limit of XC (imho).

https://www.xenopuselectronix.com/BikingCityPark.html (worth clicking through)
https://www.io.com/~beckerdo/mtb/endos.html (animated endo fun)

I have no clue what emma long is. But those trails sure looks fun. I love little drops and steeps Of course I am talking going down...this is well beyond my ability

I would see that, hike it, turn aroun pick up speed and jump it trying to rail the turn at the bottom ...
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...this is well beyond my ability
Give me techy climbs like that anyday! Alot of trails here in Vegas have alot of friendly obstacles like that.
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I just hate climbing. I don't see the point when I can hop off and run up it faster. I could probably do it if I bothered, but it bores me, I suffer from ADD of cycing
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