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Old 03-25-19, 02:46 PM
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map & compass?

rode a maze of single & double tracks for the first time. found it useful to have a map & compass. when I hit a paved road, I located myself & steered in a general direction to stay within a pre-planned area. was able to hit all the boundaries of my planned area & thought that was a smart thing to do. anyone else do that or is this just too old fashioned?
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I'm in the 60+ bracket and even I use a GPS haha. Of course, I like all the other features that come with the GPS unit too. Way back in the day though, I remember having to take a map reading and plotting course, but then the odds were good if you got lost you might end up as a guest in a bad motel. But that's neither here nor there. I'm just glad to see that someone out there still knows the importance of a map and how to use a compass. Good on you!
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thanks. it was easy enough. basically just bounced off the edges of the area & tried to cover the main quadrants. circled the spots I know I hit using most of the trails in between

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I do lots of bikepacking and exploring all over NE. Map and compass usually prove handy. No cell towers or outlets are a thing.
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Orienteering
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orienteering
https://orienteeringusa.org/

just with a bike. ?

After touring Europe several times I have a collection of large panel Maps ..






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that looks like a fun site!
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probably good in the nordic countries with open countryside access . ..
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I try to have a paper map of unfamiliar places, but very often there are no remotely decent ones available with singletrack shown.

I do keep a small compass in my pack, though. Even without a map it can be very helpful.

I was on a ride a few months ago on a trail system I am pretty new to. With snow it all looked different. My phone died and even though I had a rough idea where I was, I was not sure which trail I was on. it was heavily overcast so I could not get a good read on which direction was west (which I needed to be heading). I realized then I should have a compass in my pack.
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MTB Project App or Trailforks app for the phone. Even if you don't have a signal you can download the maps and trails ahead of time.
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MTB Project App or Trailforks app for the phone. Even if you don't have a signal you can download the maps and trails ahead of time.
I find MTB Project to be pretty useful tool when nothing else is available (which is often the case), but it can become of limited use when you do not have a signal. The issue I have run into is that while you can download the mapped trails, you lose the base-map. Even roads are not shown unless they are part of a "ride". Maybe they fixed this by now. I was one of the early beta testers for MTB Project, and this was an issue I pestered them about for years.

Does Trailforks keep a basemap when you don't have a signal?
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Yeah I guess you lose the basemap without a signal but the trails still show up. Most trails are loops of some sort anyway and one way or another you'll end up back at your car so I guess the base map isn't all that important to me.

Haven't used Trailforks in a while. Last time I used it, it didn't have as many trails as MTB Project.
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. Most trails are loops of some sort anyway and one way or another you'll end up back at your car
Until they're not......... and now it's a "where the **** are we" moment.
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Until they're not......... and now it's a "where the **** are we" moment.
I think he meant mapped loops on MTB Project.
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I think he meant mapped loops on MTB Project.
Yes.

The MTB trails I ride in the midwest are one big loop or stacked loops. One way or the other you will make it back to your car.

While the basemap may disappear the trail still shows up and the parking area does also.
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Yeah I guess you lose the basemap without a signal but the trails still show up. Most trails are loops of some sort anyway and one way or another you'll end up back at your car so I guess the base map isn't all that important to me.

Haven't used Trailforks in a while. Last time I used it, it didn't have as many trails as MTB Project.
Hit and miss. TF seems to be good for some areas, MTBP for others. My local mt. bike club on Long Island, NY is pushing Trail Forks and that site has a better set of mapped trails than MTBP locally.
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Hit and miss. TF seems to be good for some areas, MTBP for others. My local mt. bike club on Long Island, NY is pushing Trail Forks and that site has a better set of mapped trails than MTBP locally.
Well, whatever you use, never let yourself get in a situation where you can't find your way back if your phone dies.
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Well, whatever you use, never let yourself get in a situation where you can't find your way back if your phone dies.
Thats what’s nice about living on an island. There’s water in every direction. Yuk, yuk....
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