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Old 07-07-05, 12:29 PM   #1
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Woah...do people actually buy these things?

I was looking on eBay, and stumbled across this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...166998679&rd=1



That's $5,400!!!! Holy crap! You could buy a nice used car for the price of a bike built with that frame!
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Old 07-07-05, 12:33 PM   #2
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and your point is?
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Yup, hell of a frame if you are into downhill. Definately not for your average rider though.
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Do people actually buy these things? -- (see msg title)

Does anyone here ride one of these? Seems way out there, how much does it weigh?
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It's a beautiful frame, I'd ride one if my riding was worthy.
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Does anyone here ride one of these? Seems way out there, how much does it weigh?
It's definitely not a frame for most people. Personally, I do not know anyone with that much time and/or money, but if I would probably buy one if I were so lucky.
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I looked at the stuff the seller who was selling that stuff-and man, talk about spending a lot of cash. My uncle used to be into road bikes, and he bought multi-thousand dollar frames, but this frame looks like a tank.

I was absolutely stunned by it.

That's incredible. My friend owns a Schwinn team bike which switches through a hub in the rear axle(I think), is that a similar system to this? I don't really know how many people would know the answer to that question...but I figured I'd ask anyway.

Also, even after looking at a dozen sites, none seem to say the weight, although a number commented on how light it was, especially compared to how heavy it looked.

That is absolutely incredible.
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They have a web page: http://www.nicolai.net/

And here's a review: http://www.downcycles.com/techtips_NucleonST.htm

edit: That review might be biased, because that place sells those frames.
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Do people actually buy these things? -- (see msg title)

Does anyone here ride one of these? Seems way out there, how much does it weigh?
In any sport you will find a sector that uses equipment most of us may consider astronomically priced. But for them it's par for the course. Consider that in the DH racing world, you can easily find bikes that cost upwards of $8k. Timetrial roadbikes in road-racing world can topple the $15k mark and some push the $20k mark. To be honest, I think that Nicolai's cost is actually a bargain given the amount of engineering involved when compared with say a relatively simple double-diamond roadbike frame from say Colnago (C50) which retails for $4,000.

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In any sport you will find a sector that uses equipment most of us may consider astronomically priced. But for them it's par for the course. Consider that in the DH racing world, you can easily find bikes that cost upwards of $8k. Timetrial roadbikes in road-racing world can topple the $15k mark and some push the $20k mark. To be honest, I think that Nicolai's cost is actually a bargain given the amount of engineering involved when compared with say a relatively simple double-diamond roadbike frame from say Colnago (C50) which retails for $4,000.

You said it! Just b/c it's preposterous to one doesnt mean it's not a lifestyle to another.
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Good point.

I'm still amazed...

That's a truck load of money.
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Don't forget that you don't need to buy drivetrain components for this Nicolai frame. On the other hand, however, you may want to upgrade to the 1.5" headtube ($170) and the Fox DHX 4 shock ($170), and add another $110 for the bronze anodized color --> $5850.

Dang! What shocks me more is they don't seem at all interested in selling this bike to people with dial-up, or even 256 Kbps DSL. I mean who uses a 637 kB, 750 x 3000 pixel image in place of HTML that would take a quarter the time to load?
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what is goin on with the crank and everything down there. is that some sort of chain guide?
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It's a planetary gear box. There's no derailuers. Everything is internal. Notice also the chain runs on the left side of the bike instead of the right.
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In any sport you will find a sector that uses equipment most of us may consider astronomically priced. But for them it's par for the course. Consider that in the DH racing world, you can easily find bikes that cost upwards of $8k. Timetrial roadbikes in road-racing world can topple the $15k mark and some push the $20k mark. To be honest, I think that Nicolai's cost is actually a bargain given the amount of engineering involved when compared with say a relatively simple double-diamond roadbike frame from say Colnago (C50) which retails for $4,000.


yep, that nicolai is cheap, especially considering that is probably won't snap in two if it hits a bush.
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Dang! What shocks me more is they don't seem at all interested in selling this bike to people with dial-up, or even 256 Kbps DSL. I mean who uses a 637 kB, 750 x 3000 pixel image in place of HTML that would take a quarter the time to load?
Heh, I think a significant portion of people have cable these days, enough that they felt it was OK. That said, funny comment.

That image is huge though, I was thinking like "Is someone going to kill me for posting this huge image?", but then I figured you'd just yell at me and take it away instead.
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yep, that nicolai is cheap, especially considering that is probably won't snap in two if it hits a bush.


That other thread just keeps me chuckling.
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this year's phonak BMC's are worth over 25grand EACH. and that's just their normal race bikes, not even the time trialies!

and there's a bunch of people over at pinkbike that run nicolai's.
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Funny how they always brag about everything "except" the weight....
50+ lbs. I guarantee it! (Complete Bike)
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Does anyone here ride one of these? Seems way out there, how much does it weigh?

The reviewer said his fram was 47 pounds. This is a downhill bike though.

The beauty of the G-Boxx standard is that your transmission will never be violently sheered off your bike from a rock or wrapped into your rear wheel. In the downhill world this has real value.

$1000 of that cost is the Rohloff Speedhub. It's a 14 speed transmission hub that shifts without pedalling. That's 14 REAL gear ratios no overlapping ratios like you get with 28 speed derailleur drivetrains.

If you are a downhiller, this thing is something to covet.
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It's a planetary gear box. There's no derailuers. Everything is internal. Notice also the chain runs on the left side of the bike instead of the right.
This is a huge selling point to all those guys who tore up the right hand side of their downhilling pants. Now they can use em again ;-)
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This is a huge selling point to all those guys who tore up the right hand side of their downhilling pants. Now they can use em again ;-)
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I'd buy one in a heartbeat if I had the cash and the parts to build it up.
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now that i look at that it seems like it should have a little more travel, anyone think the same?
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I was looking at those a few months ago, amazing. I guess you always have that crowd though that wants this stuff. I mean thats why ferrari and these other insanely high priced car companies stay in business
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