thehammerdog

the old beast rides well slicing dicing the well used trails love it.

DorkDisk

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92 Breezer Lightning

Ive had this since 92 or 93. Cant remember. 21lbs 7oz. I love this bike

thehammerdog

love the 90s look...

on the appropriate trail well groomed single or double i just love this bike..quick fast smooth. descending on rough trails = huge suxfest.

prj71

That's the thing these days...a lot of new trails popping up are buffed machine built single track. A lot of this newer generation doesn't want to ride the old school rake and ride trails. They want it fast, flowy, smooth, jumpy or lift serve down hill.

I have no doubts rigid is ok for the buffed stuff.

DMC707 

Not just the new generation --- ive been pedalling since 1989 and thats the way i want it too now

prj71

I prefer the rake and ride trails with rocks, roots etc. The new buffed and flowy stuff is boring to me. The trail builders come in and keep repeating the same features and style of trail every 100 ft for 7-10 miles.

Darth Lefty 

Given the price of bikes now the new generation is probably still the same old generation

gis_guru 

I'm in a fairly flat area and I made the choice to build my new bike rigid, I have a Ritchey 650b with his carbon fork and some 2.35 tires and on 90% of my riding it it more than enough bike. Its the other 10% where you miss that front shock.

thehammerdog

i agree.
​​​can we get a picture of the bike.

gis_guru 

Here it is.

My 14' Ritchey 650b

https://www.pedalroom.com/bike/ritchey-p-650b-14-36770

Pantah

Here's my rigid MTB, a 1991 Marin Team Marin. This was a fun build. Found the frame/fork with an M900 front derailleur on it hanging from the ceiling of the local bike recyclery. Scooped it up and did a combination of buying parts for it and using what I had laying around. The Kooka cranks are pretty sweet and cost more money than I am ready to admit to.
The seat is an NOS Avocet Gelflex I just picked up for only 30 bucks and is wicked comfortable.

Kapusta

Big fan of Old_School trails myself. Flow stuff gets old quick for me.

But I'd like to point out that its not like trails are either rake-and-ride or new school flow. Rake-and-ride means something specific: the trail was never actually cut in. There are a gazzilion miles of rocky, rooty Old School singletrack that were actually built (as opposed to rake and ride)

Rake and ride is just *****ty trail building. Always was, and still is.

prj71

In my area the old school trails that I call rake and ride (about 23 miles worth) have been built like this:

Step 1: Walk through woods and flag trees where trails will be constructed.
Step 2: Volunteers show up with chainsaws and loppers and start removing trees and branches along flagged route
Step 3: Rake debris away that was cut.
Step 4: Start riding it in and tell everyone about it so it keeps getting tire tracks on it to prevent weeds and trees from growing back.

In some cases certain rake and ride trails don't get ridden a lot so we have to organize volunteers to go out with a weed whacker to cut down the weeds. I'm one of those volunteers.

Slowly that type of trail building is going away in my area right now. Bull Dozers and mini-excavators are being used instead. I kinda don't blame the people...it's hard work to do what I describe above and nobody wants to do it that way anymore. The fast, flowy and jumpy people are being catered to now. So now we get trails with flowy turns and berms and every 100 ft or so is the same type of jump or little rocky feature that was all built by machine and the trails are about 4 ft wide. The old school trails...the features are what was left behind after clearing the trees out of the way which mainly consists of rock and root obstacles and in some areas the handlebars barely fit between the trees when riding.

LV2TNDM

thehammerdog

love it.
i like your forks better.