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I agree with Gorsar. You can get great performance with V brakes. There is a set of Avid SD7 with SD7 levers on sale at pricepoint right now for around $70. I have a SD7 on the front of 1 bike and an Avid BB7 on the front of the other bike. With standard padsin both brakes, the Disc brake has more power, though I have read that kool stop pads will increase the power of the V brakes. The SD7 brake has much more power than the Truvativs that they replaced.
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If you want to up your braking power and don't want to go disc you should try a set of these
https://www.pricepoint.com/detail/110...ival-Brake.htm
They're no substitute for a set of Avid BB7's but they do have a bit more oomph
https://www.pricepoint.com/detail/110...ival-Brake.htm
They're no substitute for a set of Avid BB7's but they do have a bit more oomph
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I've got the Avid SD7's on my Rockhopper. I didn't like the stock brakes from the beginning, so I ordered the SD7's from Pricepoint within days of buying the bike. I didn't know what gains I would expect (if any). I really wasn't sure if I NEEDED disc brakes for the riding I do, so I started with the cheap route. At worst, I would try them out, decide I need discs, and be out $50.. or try and sell them on Ebay. Overall, I was pretty impressed with the Avids. I ride mainly XC, and found that this upgrade was good enough for me. Now, if I rode downhill a lot or in adverse conditions.. I would have gotten the Avid discs from the beginning. I still wouldn't mind doing a disc upgrade, but I just keep telling myself that this is all I need.
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Originally Posted by Gorsar
All v-brakes are NOT the same, and yes, you would notice a difference getting a quality set of v-brakes. If you are riding downhill for EXTENDED distances or ride in primarily sloppy conditions then yes, disc is the way to go. However, a decent set of v-brakes setup properly can offer outstanding stopping power.
https://www.bikeforums.net/mountain-biking/120415-avid-single-digit-7-v-brakes.html
I have nothing at ALL against disc brakes but personally feel that 80% of the riders that have them don't need them. More than you'd think have them for "coolness" value rather than braking power. There's nothing wrong with buying them for that reason but if money is tight or you're trying to spend as little as possible it simply doesn't make sense to drop $140 on brakes when your riding conditions doesn't merit it.
Just my $.02.
https://www.bikeforums.net/mountain-biking/120415-avid-single-digit-7-v-brakes.html
I have nothing at ALL against disc brakes but personally feel that 80% of the riders that have them don't need them. More than you'd think have them for "coolness" value rather than braking power. There's nothing wrong with buying them for that reason but if money is tight or you're trying to spend as little as possible it simply doesn't make sense to drop $140 on brakes when your riding conditions doesn't merit it.
Just my $.02.
I was just sitting here after reading your response and thought, wow Roasted, you're a dumb a*s. Why?
Well, v-brakes work GREAT on my bike but I wanted something more powerful just in case I ever came barreling down a hill and a tree jumped in front of me. Oh wait, I've gone on one bike trail in the past 3 months and it was for 2 miles. On top of that, even if I'm in water my brakes are very responsive. Plus, my bike is a 300 dollar bike. Why put 170 dollars worth of wheels + brakes on a bike who's wheels and brakes are already past my expectations?
Now I have a new dilemma. Shall I buy the Pioneer 4700mp or the Pioneer 6700mp for my car? My Pioneer DEH-1500 is getting boring and I need something with a higher voltage preout than what I have.
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Originally Posted by Roasted
You absolutely rule. I was on the verge of purchasing front disc brakes + a new wheel set that is rim brake as well as disc brake capable within the next 2 or 3 days.
I was just sitting here after reading your response and thought, wow Roasted, you're a dumb a*s. Why?
Well, v-brakes work GREAT on my bike but I wanted something more powerful just in case I ever came barreling down a hill and a tree jumped in front of me. Oh wait, I've gone on one bike trail in the past 3 months and it was for 2 miles. On top of that, even if I'm in water my brakes are very responsive. Plus, my bike is a 300 dollar bike. Why put 170 dollars worth of wheels + brakes on a bike who's wheels and brakes are already past my expectations?
Now I have a new dilemma. Shall I buy the Pioneer 4700mp or the Pioneer 6700mp for my car? My Pioneer DEH-1500 is getting boring and I need something with a higher voltage preout than what I have.
I was just sitting here after reading your response and thought, wow Roasted, you're a dumb a*s. Why?
Well, v-brakes work GREAT on my bike but I wanted something more powerful just in case I ever came barreling down a hill and a tree jumped in front of me. Oh wait, I've gone on one bike trail in the past 3 months and it was for 2 miles. On top of that, even if I'm in water my brakes are very responsive. Plus, my bike is a 300 dollar bike. Why put 170 dollars worth of wheels + brakes on a bike who's wheels and brakes are already past my expectations?
Now I have a new dilemma. Shall I buy the Pioneer 4700mp or the Pioneer 6700mp for my car? My Pioneer DEH-1500 is getting boring and I need something with a higher voltage preout than what I have.
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Originally Posted by Gorsar
Glad it helped. And you need higher voltage preouts? Why not just get an amp with less a less sensitive line input and really crank it up?
I'd much rather just get a nice head unit with some 4v preouts while I'm shopping around...
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Originally Posted by PoorBehavior
Thanks for the advice. I try to keep them tuned up as best I can. I really do not want to fork out $150-300 dollars for disc ready wheels and a disc system, might as well save it up for another bike next year. I am just starting to learn what I like and don't like anyway so no reason to rush it. Besides, thats why I wear a helmet.
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Originally Posted by iamthetas
I got a set of Sun DS-2 disc ready rims with Shimano Deore525 hubs at JensonUSA for under$100 regular price. they still have them too. when I got them I was 220lbs and only had to true them once. that was when I took them out the box. they are light,cheap and for me have been very durable. I have over 2k offroad miles on them* be warned they are not rims for jumping bigger than 3'*
https://www.pricepoint.com/detail/120...-Lite-Rims.htm
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Well that begs the other question, if after looking at the available wheel sets out there, and not wanting to build my own and need them right away(in case I screw them up) what is the consensus best under $170? There are a lot of ShimanoXT mixes. XT + Rhynolite XL for $169 : XT + Mavic 717 or Mavic 223 $159: XT + Sun Singletrack $145 : XT + Mavic's XM321 $113 : or if I want sealed bearings for $229 there is a Sun / Ringle rhynolite. This is partially why I did not want to make the switch.
And that does not even include the XT+Rhynolite $100 deal.
It be confusing man.
And that does not even include the XT+Rhynolite $100 deal.
It be confusing man.
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ya go with the Rhynolite my friend used one on his old trials bike and never had a problem
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Originally Posted by Raiyn
It rather pay the $20 more and get Rhynolites on XT
https://www.pricepoint.com/detail/120...-Lite-Rims.htm
https://www.pricepoint.com/detail/120...-Lite-Rims.htm
JensonUSA has the Sun Rhyno lite on Deore 525 disc hubs for $89 IN STOCK
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Originally Posted by iamthetas
JensonUSA has the Sun Rhyno lite on Deore 525 disc hubs for $89 IN STOCK
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I am going to throw my bit in also.
I am not a bike mechanic and I don't want to be a bike mechanic.
I beleive in "To each their own"
When I work on brakes they never are "good as new"
I take them to the local bike shop, that I trust, and they do some magical chant and the brakes turn out like new. All sorts of power.
These guys have been playing with brakes 5, 10, 20, or so years.
I find the more simple a device is, the harder it is to fix.
I usually end up wishing for disks and then take the bike to the LBS and find that I dont need disks.
I find this year (After my Brodie was stolen last year) that my wifes haro with proper setup v- brakes feel better going downhill, and I have more control.
The mechanical disks on my Brodie didn't have the modulation or feel I can get with the V's. I would sometimes glance down at the front tire to know if it was still turning or locked up.
When I do get another bike I am going to do my homework and get disks that I can feel on the very steep downhills.
The only thing I dont like about my V's is wet weather performance.
Week and a half I went out with 7 others on a 2 day ride of 10 hours the first day in the rain and 12 hours the second day. Lots of hills and thrills covering 2 different ski resorts. The 2 of us that had the V's had problems with the last downhill at 9:15 at nite because the brakes were mush. The disks were still running strong.
The bike is in the shop now gettin all new brakes by the pros.
I was thinking of doing the work myself and learning to become a brake "expert" but I don' t have the time right now.
So I will leave my brake problems to the experts at the LBS and I will concentrate on fixing ships.
I realize that the problem I have not knowing how to set up brakes is not your problem. But I just put in my 2 cents because it was a recent realization to me last year.
To each their own.
I am not a bike mechanic and I don't want to be a bike mechanic.
I beleive in "To each their own"
When I work on brakes they never are "good as new"
I take them to the local bike shop, that I trust, and they do some magical chant and the brakes turn out like new. All sorts of power.
These guys have been playing with brakes 5, 10, 20, or so years.
I find the more simple a device is, the harder it is to fix.
I usually end up wishing for disks and then take the bike to the LBS and find that I dont need disks.
I find this year (After my Brodie was stolen last year) that my wifes haro with proper setup v- brakes feel better going downhill, and I have more control.
The mechanical disks on my Brodie didn't have the modulation or feel I can get with the V's. I would sometimes glance down at the front tire to know if it was still turning or locked up.
When I do get another bike I am going to do my homework and get disks that I can feel on the very steep downhills.
The only thing I dont like about my V's is wet weather performance.
Week and a half I went out with 7 others on a 2 day ride of 10 hours the first day in the rain and 12 hours the second day. Lots of hills and thrills covering 2 different ski resorts. The 2 of us that had the V's had problems with the last downhill at 9:15 at nite because the brakes were mush. The disks were still running strong.
The bike is in the shop now gettin all new brakes by the pros.
I was thinking of doing the work myself and learning to become a brake "expert" but I don' t have the time right now.
So I will leave my brake problems to the experts at the LBS and I will concentrate on fixing ships.
I realize that the problem I have not knowing how to set up brakes is not your problem. But I just put in my 2 cents because it was a recent realization to me last year.
To each their own.
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Originally Posted by Raiyn
I'd rather buy from Pricepoint
I'm quite sure they'll match a $5 difference Oh and they have them in stock as well
I'm quite sure they'll match a $5 difference Oh and they have them in stock as well
I got the 36 spoke model. Nice weight, nice finish, they seem strong.
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Originally Posted by willtsmith_nwi
I just bought a set from the LBS. They came out of true right away, but they're machine built, what do you expect.
I got the 36 spoke model. Nice weight, nice finish, they seem strong.
I got the 36 spoke model. Nice weight, nice finish, they seem strong.
The one's I purchased from Pricepoint back in Dec 02 have only needed one minor touchup truing on the front wheel the entire time I've owned them
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Originally Posted by iamthetas
I got a set of Sun DS-2 disc ready rims with Shimano Deore525 hubs ..........they are light,cheap and for me have been very durable. *
Light? Not so much
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Originally Posted by willtsmith_nwi
I just bought a set from the LBS. They came out of true right away, but they're machine built, what do you expect.
I got the 36 spoke model. Nice weight, nice finish, they seem strong.
I got the 36 spoke model. Nice weight, nice finish, they seem strong.
a local bike shop is the BEST way to go.