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Old 02-17-22, 11:49 AM
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choosing parts

hello everyone. i took apart a marlin 6 and would like to put it back together with new parts. i'm having trouble removing the rings that attach the front fork to the frame, but i've read up on that today and will apply the recommended solutions. i would like to know now if in general bicycle frames accept all parts. can i install whatever drivetrain i want? can i attach fatter wheels and tires? can i use whatever brakes i want?
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i would like to know now if in general bicycle frames accept all parts.
No

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can i install whatever drivetrain i want?
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can i attach fatter wheels and tires?
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can i use whatever brakes i want?
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thanx in advance people
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Old 02-18-22, 04:47 PM
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No


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Maybe


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Happy to help!
Thanx! Finding out that it is very far from being the case.
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There are a lot of "standards" out there if you know what you are looking for in parts things can be better helped. I would caution on putting a lot into that bike though it is a low initial cost bike and not really anything special in terms of frame. Certainly keep it running if not expensive but don't go crazy putting a bunch of parts on it that you couldn't transfer to something more modern.

Most modern MTBs will have thru-axles and usually air forks or if it is a coil fork it is a higher end coil fork. 7 speed came out in the late 80s so over 30 years ago so the quality of that stuff has only gone way down hill or is literally DH specific because you don't really need to shift (but is really 11 speed compatible with fewer gears) and really for downhill you don't even need a chain (Aaron Gwin?) 10 speed is fine for entry level stuff or if you find something with 9 speed Microshift Advent that is decent but most of the single digit stuff is getting more and more relegated to the lower end of the range. Most of the quality stuff is 11 and 12 speed these days.
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There are a lot of "standards" out there if you know what you are looking for in parts things can be better helped. I would caution on putting a lot into that bike though it is a low initial cost bike and not really anything special in terms of frame. Certainly keep it running if not expensive but don't go crazy putting a bunch of parts on it that you couldn't transfer to something more modern.

Most modern MTBs will have thru-axles and usually air forks or if it is a coil fork it is a higher end coil fork. 7 speed came out in the late 80s so over 30 years ago so the quality of that stuff has only gone way down hill or is literally DH specific because you don't really need to shift (but is really 11 speed compatible with fewer gears) and really for downhill you don't even need a chain (Aaron Gwin?) 10 speed is fine for entry level stuff or if you find something with 9 speed Microshift Advent that is decent but most of the single digit stuff is getting more and more relegated to the lower end of the range. Most of the quality stuff is 11 and 12 speed these days.
that's a lot of very good info. can you tell me more about these “standards”?
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that's a lot of very good info. can you tell me more about these “standards”?
Yes do you have a few days? There is a lot I could probably do one of those ted talk things but my name ain't ted and I ain't talking standards for that long. However if there are specific things you are curious about feel free to ask. In the end though save your money find a bike that will do what you want or very close to it out of the box or if not start looking into nice frames that have features you want and then you can build yourself (or give it to your shop). Most of my bikes are built from the frame up aside from my e-bike but I have added a lot to it and replaced stuff mostly just to do it not because it was needed functionality wise or the parts were total crap just to make it work for my quirks.
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Yes do you have a few days? There is a lot I could probably do one of those ted talk things but my name ain't ted and I ain't talking standards for that long. However if there are specific things you are curious about feel free to ask. In the end though save your money find a bike that will do what you want or very close to it out of the box or if not start looking into nice frames that have features you want and then you can build yourself (or give it to your shop). Most of my bikes are built from the frame up aside from my e-bike but I have added a lot to it and replaced stuff mostly just to do it not because it was needed functionality wise or the parts were total crap just to make it work for my quirks.
I have a several year old Marlin 6 with breaks and gears and suspension that work poorly (or not at all) so I wanted to change all of it, and the reasonable thing to do, I thought, was to take it apart, which I did, and then build it up from the frame, which is what I'm trying to do. This way I can learn about bicycles too.
We don't have many options in terms of stores in Puerto Rico, so I have to order everything online, and shipping isn't cheap here either. So I wanna make sure I'm getting the right stuff the first time.
For starters, I figure I can get the Shimano Zee 10sp Drivetrain Groupset Builder (not overly expensive, and well rated for beginners), and get the Sram Dub English Threaded Bottom Bracket -which is universal I believe. And all this should fit my Marlin 6 frame.
Now I can move on to the brake system. Are there similar groupsets that include the caliper, the break disc, and the handlebar lever that activates the system?
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I have a several year old Marlin 6 with breaks and gears and suspension that work poorly (or not at all) so I wanted to change all of it, and the reasonable thing to do, I thought, was to take it apart, which I did, and then build it up from the frame, which is what I'm trying to do. This way I can learn about bicycles too.
We don't have many options in terms of stores in Puerto Rico, so I have to order everything online, and shipping isn't cheap here either. So I wanna make sure I'm getting the right stuff the first time.
For starters, I figure I can get the Shimano Zee 10sp Drivetrain Groupset Builder (not overly expensive, and well rated for beginners), and get the Sram Dub English Threaded Bottom Bracket -which is universal I believe. And all this should fit my Marlin 6 frame.
Now I can move on to the brake system. Are there similar groupsets that include the caliper, the break disc, and the handlebar lever that activates the system?
The Shimano Zee groupset is primarily for downhill riding. The rear derailleur will only shift up to a 32 tooth, might be now 36 tooth chainring. What kind of riding are you planning on doing? Any major hills are you planning on riding up, cause this drive train might not be good for going up. If you are planning on riding up and down hills, check out Microshifts Advent X system. I installed this group set on my hardtail over a year ago and it's a really good group set that is more budget friendly.

Sram's Dub Bottom Bracket, might be universal for threaded frames, but might not be universal on cranksets. You may need to check Sram's site to verify what cranksets can be used in this bottom bracket.

Brakes typically only come with the calipers and levers. You will need to purchase rotors separately. Unless you have access to full sets where you are located. Depending on how or what you plan on riding, and your budget. Shimano 200's are nice and budget friendly.
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I'd suggest you look into servicing your current components and only replace what can't be made to work well. The brakes and shifting may have only needed new cables (maybe housing).
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Old 02-19-22, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by travbikeman View Post
The Shimano Zee groupset is primarily for downhill riding. The rear derailleur will only shift up to a 32 tooth, might be now 36 tooth chainring. What kind of riding are you planning on doing? Any major hills are you planning on riding up, cause this drive train might not be good for going up. If you are planning on riding up and down hills, check out Microshifts Advent X system. I installed this group set on my hardtail over a year ago and it's a really good group set that is more budget friendly.

Sram's Dub Bottom Bracket, might be universal for threaded frames, but might not be universal on cranksets. You may need to check Sram's site to verify what cranksets can be used in this bottom bracket.

Brakes typically only come with the calipers and levers. You will need to purchase rotors separately. Unless you have access to full sets where you are located. Depending on how or what you plan on riding, and your budget. Shimano 200's are nice and budget friendly.
This is helpful! It is not specifically for downhill riding. It is for amateur cross country. Some climbing, also some downhill. An all around mountain bike. I'll check the Microshifts Advent X System, check what cranks the Sram Dub BB is compatible with, and check the Shimano 200's.
Thanx a lot, feel like I'm moving along.
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