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Originally Posted by veganbikes
(Post 22754362)
You were doing so good.
26 is not almost extinct it is still very much used maybe not as much as it was but it is not near extinction or close to dead. 650B is not going anywhere it is an old French size that became quite popular again and will still be around a while. If it were dying I wouldn't be using it and I am using it on my mountain bike and my commuter and have plans for a gravel bike down the road that is 650b/27.5. 29 is fine no complaints not necessarily royalty of any gender but a fine size. For instance QBP a very large distributor of bicycle parts lists 151 models of 27.5 tires (Not all MTB some have different sizes under those models) and under 29" you get 154 models (again with a bit of a mix and different sizes under that model) and for 26" you get 168 models (same thing as before with maybe a bit more road stuff maybe only because 27.5 and 29 usually is MTB specific where 26 is a bit more catch all) so I think if things were dying and extinct or on life support there wouldn't be nearly an equal number of each tire. If Schwalbe, Panaracer, Continental, Kenda and Cheng Shin (owners of Maxxis and they make some low quality stuff under CST) stop making 26" and 27.5/650B then yes we know things are on the way out. Right now not so much. 27.5 in the MTB world is going the same way as 26ers. The new 29ers are as flixable as smaller wheels but with the added stability of the larger wheels. And yes, I still ride a 26" MTB, a 27.5" MTB and a newer 29" MTB. They are all different and all fun but when I ride the 26er, I am usually the only one and generally the only one many have seen for years. Finding tires is a pain but I have a stash of 30 tires that I have as a backup. |
Originally Posted by FREEBIRD1
(Post 22690867)
I have all 3, on the trails the, 29 does not have as much tendency to wash out the front wheel, and is much smoother over the ruts. I don't notice much difference between the 26 and 27.5, they are "snappier" and have a sharper turning radius.
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Originally Posted by vespasianus
(Post 22754487)
In the USA MTB scene, 26" is dead and buried. I am going to show my elitism but go to any "real" MTB area and you will not see a single 26" MTB. They are all gone. Very few people who are real mountain bikers ride them. You will find the occasional "real" mountain biker that still rides a 26er - and they are generally very good riders, but rare.
27.5 in the MTB world is going the same way as 26ers. The new 29ers are as flixable as smaller wheels but with the added stability of the larger wheels. And yes, I still ride a 26" MTB, a 27.5" MTB and a newer 29" MTB. They are all different and all fun but when I ride the 26er, I am usually the only one and generally the only one many have seen for years. Finding tires is a pain but I have a stash of 30 tires that I have as a backup. Continental Trail King Protection Apex Continental Mountain King Protection Continental Cross King Protection Continental Race King Protection Hutchinson Python2 Hutchinson Gila Hutchinson Toro |
Originally Posted by georges1
(Post 22754645)
Interesting testimony in my area, I still see plenty of 26 MTBs but less than before. Finding tires for a 26 isn't a pain, you just need to look at the manufacturers proposing them:
Continental Trail King Protection Apex Continental Mountain King Protection Continental Cross King Protection Continental Race King Protection Hutchinson Python2 Hutchinson Gila Hutchinson Toro Michelin Force XC Michelin]Michelin Pilot Slope Michelin DH34 Ritchey Z Max Evolution Ritchey Comp Speedmax Panaracer Soar All Conditions Panaracer Swoop All Trail Panaracer Comet Hard Pack Panaracer Dart Panaracer Smoke Panaracer Fire XC Pro Panaracer Cedric Garcia All Conditions Schwalbe Magic Marry Schwalbe Big Betty Schwalbe Hans Dampf Schwalbe Nobby Nic Schwalbe Racing Ralph Schwalbe Racing Ray Schwalbe Rocket Ron Manufacturers like Vittoria, Good Year, Pirelli and Vredestein don't even offer 26 sized tires. My best experience regarding MTB tires has been with Continental and Hutchinson. Schwalbe and Panaracer are some serious high quality tyres. Michelin had its glory back in the late 90's with the Wild Gripper lite S, not sure about their tires now . About Ritchey, a friend of mine love them but had some flats with them in a race. I only ride 26 sized MTBs, the last trail race I have been on three years ago, I was going faster with my 26 Kona than the other 27.5 and 29 MTBs. |
Originally Posted by veganbikes
(Post 22754362)
You were doing so good.
26 is not almost extinct it is still very much used maybe not as much as it was but it is not near extinction or close to dead. 650B is not going anywhere it is an old French size that became quite popular again and will still be around a while. If it were dying I wouldn't be using it and I am using it on my mountain bike and my commuter and have plans for a gravel bike down the road that is 650b/27.5. 29 is fine no complaints not necessarily royalty of any gender but a fine size. For instance QBP a very large distributor of bicycle parts lists 151 models of 27.5 tires (Not all MTB some have different sizes under those models) and under 29" you get 154 models (again with a bit of a mix and different sizes under that model) and for 26" you get 168 models (same thing as before with maybe a bit more road stuff maybe only because 27.5 and 29 usually is MTB specific where 26 is a bit more catch all) so I think if things were dying and extinct or on life support there wouldn't be nearly an equal number of each tire. If Schwalbe, Panaracer, Continental, Kenda and Cheng Shin (owners of Maxxis and they make some low quality stuff under CST) stop making 26" and 27.5/650B then yes we know things are on the way out. Right now not so much. |
Sure some of the tire manufacturers still make quality 26 inch tires but the selection of sizes has gotten way smaller than what it used to be. I remember days when I could walk into any LBS and find tons of different tires in 26 inch size. Today I would be lucky if I can find one or two, anything 26 inch is special order or they don't make them anymore.
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Originally Posted by georges1
(Post 22754645)
Interesting testimony in my area, I still see plenty of 26 MTBs but less than before. Finding tires for a 26 isn't a pain, you just need to look at the manufacturers proposing them:
Continental Trail King Protection Apex Continental Mountain King Protection Continental Cross King Protection Continental Race King Protection Hutchinson Python2 Hutchinson Gila Hutchinson Toro I still mostly ride my old Turner 5-Spot in most places. I have modified it to be able to run 27.5 wheels (with 2.4" tires) but honestly, there is little difference between the 26 and 27.5 ride feel and I swamp them out all the time. The list of people making tires is great but no LBS carries good 26" tires any more. A lot of on-line retailers still have them and that is great - especially those in Europe. |
Originally Posted by georges1
(Post 22754650)
Second part of my response for tires available in 26
Michelin Force XC Michelin]Michelin Pilot Slope Michelin DH34 Ritchey Z Max Evolution Ritchey Comp Speedmax Panaracer Soar All Conditions Panaracer Swoop All Trail Panaracer Comet Hard Pack Panaracer Dart Panaracer Smoke Panaracer Fire XC Pro Panaracer Cedric Garcia All Conditions Schwalbe Magic Marry Schwalbe Big Betty Schwalbe Hans Dampf Schwalbe Nobby Nic Schwalbe Racing Ralph Schwalbe Racing Ray Schwalbe Rocket Ron Manufacturers like Vittoria, Good Year, Pirelli and Vredestein don't even offer 26 sized tires. My best experience regarding MTB tires has been with Continental and Hutchinson. Schwalbe and Panaracer are some serious high quality tyres. Michelin had its glory back in the late 90's with the Wild Gripper lite S, not sure about their tires now . About Ritchey, a friend of mine love them but had some flats with them in a race. I only ride 26 sized MTBs, the last trail race I have been on three years ago, I was going faster with my 26 Kona than the other 27.5 and 29 MTBs. https://www.wtb.com/collections/tire...s/velociraptor https://www.wtb.com/collections/tire...ant=1024398960 https://www.wtb.com/collections/tire...ucts/trailboss And no, 650b/27.5 is definitely not going away. In fact, with the increasing popularity of gravel bikes, there are even more options for 650b/27/5. |
Originally Posted by wolfchild
(Post 22754383)
I am using both 26 inch and 700cc or 29er and I was thinking of maybe adding 27.5, but cycling trends just change so fast, I am not sure if it would be worth investing in 27.5 wheels. I love my my 26 inch rigid MTB, it was my first real bike I purchased but none of the LBS in my area offers many choices of tires in that size. I am just wondering if 27.5 will meet the same fate as 26 inch has. I prefer frames that are designed to run two different size wheels as it gives me more options.
Most of the frames I see that are designed for two sizes are designed for standard tires in one size and plus tires in another. Like 27.5 Plus and 29 (standard) If the issue is tire availability, there are still good options out there for 26” if you are willing to shop online. Last year I bought some high end Maxxis and Schwalbe tires in 26”. |
How popular are mullets (29f/27.5r) out in the real world? I'm not in a big mtb area so my sample size is pretty limited, I only know of one dude doing it.
Just to ad more BS to this thread both my current mtbs are 27.5ers, had several 29ers in the past, and 1 26er. |
Originally Posted by Kapusta
(Post 22754767)
If the issue is tire availability, there are still good options out there for 26” if you are willing to shop online. Last year I bought some high end Maxxis and Schwalbe tires in 26”. |
Originally Posted by Lombard
(Post 22754739)
Not to mention:
https://www.wtb.com/collections/tire...s/velociraptor https://www.wtb.com/collections/tire...ant=1024398960 https://www.wtb.com/collections/tire...ucts/trailboss |
Originally Posted by wolfchild
(Post 22754655)
Sure some of the tire manufacturers still make quality 26 inch tires but the selection of sizes has gotten way smaller than what it used to be. I remember days when I could walk into any LBS and find tons of different tires in 26 inch size. Today I would be lucky if I can find one or two, anything 26 inch is special order or they don't make them anymore.
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Originally Posted by Lombard
(Post 22754739)
Not to mention:
https://www.wtb.com/collections/tire...s/velociraptor https://www.wtb.com/collections/tire...ant=1024398960 https://www.wtb.com/collections/tire...ucts/trailboss And no, 650b/27.5 is definitely not going away. In fact, with the increasing popularity of gravel bikes, there are even more options for 650b/27/5. |
Originally Posted by wolfchild
(Post 22754782)
I was looking at a Kenda website and I see they still make some decent quality tires in 26 inch sizes.
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Originally Posted by georges1
(Post 22754996)
The hype of the 27.5 and the 29 isn't really justified since until 2009-2010, the 26 was the king and you don't find vbrake rims anymore for 26 unless you go to dt ,mavic stopped to make the legendary xm 819 ust tubless vbrake rim a while back.
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Originally Posted by wolfchild
(Post 22755026)
I agree but we can't change the direction that the bike industry is going. It's just like 135mm rear spacing and quick release or solid nutted axles which work perfectly fine...but bike industry just had to change it to 142mm and then to 148mm boost thru axles.
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Originally Posted by Lombard
(Post 22755053)
I figure as more and more cogs are added to cassettes, longer axles will be necessary to prevent a severely dished wheel. Granted that disc brakes offset the problem a bit. Thru-axles are better than QR with disc brakes.
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Originally Posted by wolfchild
(Post 22755070)
Yes one thing leads to another.... They could of [sic] kept things simple.................
Originally Posted by wolfchild
(Post 22755070)
As for thru axles being better than quick releases for disc brakes, that's debatable.
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Originally Posted by Lombard
(Post 22755084)
The torque on the hub while braking is enough to pull the wheel right out of the fork if it isn't secured properly. |
Originally Posted by wolfchild
(Post 22755132)
TBH I've never seen that happen in real life.....This type of thing only happens to some fool who files off the lawyer tabs on the fork and doesn't tighten the axle properly. It's impossible for the wheel to be pulled out on a fork which has lawyer tabs and a properly tightened quick release axle.
The key words are "a properly tightened quick release". I have been on more than one ride where I helped someone change a flat and their QR could be loosened with one finger! Still, TA gets the wheel in exactly the right place every time. And it's really not much more of a hassle than a QR. People just don't like change. |
Originally Posted by wolfchild
(Post 22754383)
I am using both 26 inch and 700cc or 29er and I was thinking of maybe adding 27.5, but cycling trends just change so fast, I am not sure if it would be worth investing in 27.5 wheels. I love my my 26 inch rigid MTB, it was my first real bike I purchased but none of the LBS in my area offers many choices of tires in that size. I am just wondering if 27.5 will meet the same fate as 26 inch has. I prefer frames that are designed to run two different size wheels as it gives me more options.
Originally Posted by vespasianus
(Post 22754487)
In the USA MTB scene, 26" is dead and buried. I am going to show my elitism but go to any "real" MTB area and you will not see a single 26" MTB. They are all gone. Very few people who are real mountain bikers ride them. You will find the occasional "real" mountain biker that still rides a 26er - and they are generally very good riders, but rare.
27.5 in the MTB world is going the same way as 26ers. The new 29ers are as flixable as smaller wheels but with the added stability of the larger wheels. And yes, I still ride a 26" MTB, a 27.5" MTB and a newer 29" MTB. They are all different and all fun but when I ride the 26er, I am usually the only one and generally the only one many have seen for years. Finding tires is a pain but I have a stash of 30 tires that I have as a backup. I also believe sometime probably in the future 26" might make a bigger comeback as 650B did for gravel into MTB stuff. Heck Jan Heine released an old desmodromic derailleur last year. It may not but old stuff frequently becomes fashionable again. Plus something new will come along.
Originally Posted by georges1
(Post 22754651)
You are correct about 26MTBs being not as popular as before but still popular and some vintage 26 MTB frames fetch high prices, I keep my 26 MTB bikes preciously because of the higher quality tubing especially when it came to steel frames, more interesting paint schemes and many other things.I tried a 29 and 27.5, those weren't for me.
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People rise to the defense of 26 as though it was correct while it was really an accident of history. When MTB's launched there had been an immediate prior fad of 26" BMX cruisers that used the beach cruiser tire size, so that was the only near adult size balloon knobby. Getting tires made was really the limiting factor. All the other fabrication stuff is just bending and mitering. The wheel machine can bend the rim extrusion to whatever size. But a tire mold is a big expensive tool requiring big corporate support to make and use in a big factory
27.5 got a reprieve this year thanks to some major companies making "mullet" bikes. But this time more than ever it seems like churn for churn's sake, especially since this time it's back to a pre-existing tire design. They did not come up with new width, tread, carcass, etc. It will be tough to see how this succeeds in the market since the whole market is in a nose dive right now |
Originally Posted by veganbikes
(Post 22755447)
It is not dead and buried, not common not seen on many new bikes and especially new bikes of quality but it is far from dead.
I also believe sometime probably in the future 26" might make a bigger comeback as 650B did for gravel into MTB stuff. Heck Jan Heine released an old desmodromic derailleur last year. It may not but old stuff frequently becomes fashionable again. Plus something new will come along. |
Originally Posted by vespasianus
(Post 22755617)
In the USA MTB scene, 26" is dead and buried. I said nothing about dirt jumpers or the BMX bikes. DEAD. BURIED. And I will add, CREMATED.
Dead and buried and creamated means GONE. 26" isn't gone until you cannot find anything for it anymore aside maybe from used and that stuff isn't selling either. When the major tire manufacturers stop making good quality tires in 26" I can see it being dead. |
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