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Originally Posted by scubaman
(Post 22451204)
I agree with what others have written, that this bike would be better for gravel-type riding than for MTB trails. (That's true of any MTB from that era! Modern MTB geometry is very different.) . I dont . ITs a mountain bike. A couple of us have noted that our local trails havent really changed that mucg in 20-30 years in some cases. These bikes are what we rode |
Originally Posted by DMC707
(Post 22452757)
I dont . ITs a mountain bike. A couple of us have noted that our local trails havent really changed that mucg in 20-30 years in some cases. These bikes are what we rode
Bikes were designed like that because people just didn’t know any better. I remember well thinking that a 135mm stem, 560mm bar, 71 deg head angle all sounded like a good idea.:foo: |
This bike is interesting for what it is: An old classic mtb. IMO, trying to modernize it with a different front end in an attempt to make it a better mtb is a waste of money and of the bike, IMO.
If what you want is a better mtb, start with a more modern bike. The problem with this bike is not the components, it is the geometry. |
Originally Posted by Kapusta
(Post 22453197)
We also used to wreck a whole lot more back then.:lol:
.:foo: Boy - you hit the nail on the head there ! In my case, and being 50 now with a ton of old injuries -- but for me i wonder if thats more a function of being in my 20's and trying to push the limits everytime the trail angled slightly downward and attempting to achieve lift on almost any bump, stump or creek crossing. Today i have a far more capable machine, but i also ride it much more cautiously. Quite a conundrum |
Originally Posted by Velogoth
(Post 22447272)
I was looking to snag a pair of v-brakes off of a bike at the dump for a project... and then I realized what the brakes I was looking at were attached to. This is a
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...1564d215c4.jpg https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...49a72c8228.jpg It's the right size for me, and there's nothing wrong with it other than normal wear & tear for its age BUT: 1. I'm not really a mountain biker. 2. At 280lbs I think I'm too heavy for it. This is a light frame, and I've read that the headshoks aren't a good fit for heavy riders. So, do I sell it? If so, how much should I sell it for? Should I have the headshok serviced before selling? Do I part it out on ebay? Am I too heavy for it? Do I keep it for singletrack/occasional rides with friends? Thanks in advance! Maybe loose a couple of pounds, or ... Just keep it as your gravel bike. Perfect for that. I'm not that far behind you weight wise and I just rebuilt a V-500 with a Headshok for my granddaughter. Yeah, if I don't preload it for my weight and pump up the Fox Shok it's a bit too springy. But yours will be much more forgiving on most surfaces with solid stays :) |
I had some pretty nice hardtails in that era and I took them some wild places.
If I had this back then, I would have likewise taken it wild places. Any bike that comes specd with XT/XTR is going to have pretty good components everywhere else. It’s a great bike. It’s old school though, the sport has fundamentally changed, I would not expect this bike to perform well in what the modern definition seems to be (gravity driven and aerial). |
Originally Posted by Velogoth
(Post 22447272)
I was looking to snag a pair of v-brakes off of a bike at the dump for a project... and then I realized what the brakes I was looking at were attached to. This is a
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...1564d215c4.jpg https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...49a72c8228.jpg It's the right size for me, and there's nothing wrong with it other than normal wear & tear for its age BUT: 1. I'm not really a mountain biker. 2. At 280lbs I think I'm too heavy for it. This is a light frame, and I've read that the headshoks aren't a good fit for heavy riders. So, do I sell it? If so, how much should I sell it for? Should I have the headshok serviced before selling? Do I part it out on ebay? Am I too heavy for it? Do I keep it for singletrack/occasional rides with friends? Thanks in advance! enjoy |
Originally Posted by joesch
(Post 22449182)
Why don't people drop off such descent bikes to thrift shops so hopefully the needy will find more healthy transportation?
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Originally Posted by 3speed
(Post 22491624)
Self-absorbed, careless, throwaway society lacking in consideration of those in need and the amount of completely useful stuff they throw in the landfill as waste.
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I educated the attendants at the landfill about quality bikes they should be diverting. Turned into a treasuretrove for me. Great pickup.
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Originally Posted by prj71
(Post 22492118)
Yes. We are heathens.
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Is there a delete/workaround for the Headshock that makes it just a regular setup? :foo:
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Wow! I should be so lucky.
I agree with those who say tune it up, swap tires if needed, and then ride it. |
Originally Posted by merziac
(Post 22552106)
Is there a delete/workaround for the Headshock that makes it just a regular setup? :foo:
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Great Score!
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Great find! I'd clean, and tune it up then ride it. I've been eyeing Craigslist for a diamond in the rough though I think the wife will kill me (or wearing it as a bowtie Bugs Bunny/Elmer Fudd style) if I snagged another bike. No room in the garage as it is.
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wow great find Velogoth !
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Originally Posted by Darth Lefty
(Post 22554223)
There was but finding a good suspension fork for 26” with V bosses and QR isn’t that easy either any more.
many will require service though of course |
Originally Posted by veganbikes
(Post 22450064)
I will argue for old XT. I have two old XT derailleurs (7 and 8 speed) running 9 speed quite nicely and yes a little more vintage but shifts like a freakin' dream. Maybe a notch down from my XT 11 speed but on par with my actual 9 speed XT rear.
I get it is vintage stuff but it is acres better than the modern stuff of that number of speeds and honestly for the average rider not a bad way to go. Having a vintage bike in the stable is fun sometimes. I love my high end bikes, Di2 is awesome, Rohloff E-14 awesome all that sort of stuff but it is fun to just have a bike to mess around on. |
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Originally Posted by scubaman
(Post 22451204)
Getting some nice non- or at least less knobby tires will really help. I'm a very big fan of René Herse' 26" x 2.3" Rat Trap Pass tires, but anything similar should also be nice.
attached pic of a bike with DTH 2.15 |
You would have left it at the dump? The rear derailleur is worth more than $100 alone. Please let us know when and where you are dumping your vintage bikes.
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Originally Posted by Rumbleboy21
(Post 22630783)
You would have left it at the dump? The rear derailleur is worth more than $100 alone. Please let us know when and where you are dumping your vintage bikes.
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Hoarders? Profitable as a free puppy? Where do I start?
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Originally Posted by Darth Lefty
(Post 22631065)
"It's still good, it could be worth X" is how people get to be hoarders. For me this bike for "free" would be about as profitable as a "free puppy" but I am not a bike flipper.
Good grief - i saw an episode of that show (Hoarders) and youre right That was an over-lying theme "I cant believe they want me to throw out such and such ! It still has value ! " ---- says the guy who has waaaay too many C&V road bikes :foo::lol: |
I'm guessing that most of you folks who advocate leaving it at the dump or returning it to the dump because it's no good on the trails have forgotten how to ride a NORBA geometry bike? Just how often were you crashing "back in the day"? Or did you ever learn how to properly ride a mountain bike? I can count on one hand the number of crashes I'd had on my old 95 Kona Kilauea due to "bad geometry" and "subpar components" and still have 4 spare fingers. Sure, maybe modern geometry is better (MAYBE!) but is it so much better that it relegates this very sweet hardtail to the ranks of absolute trash? Come on folks, bikes aren't that complicated and advances in technology aren't that ground-breaking as to render anything more than 6 months old as obsolete. Regardless of what current advertising may tell you and you may mindlessly believe, 26" wheels are viable, V brakes are capable of effectively, efficiently, and controllably stopping a bike, and chromoly steel actually is a good material to build frames out of. Don't get me started on 1X drivetrains. Because a properly tuned 3X up front is such a horrible problem....
That Cannondale is sweet, and I wouldn't hesitate to ride that down any rocky, gnarly, steep, scary, impossible trail you care to put me on all day long. If I crash it, it certainly isn't because of some limitation imposed by the bike itself. |
Yes, just leave a functional bike in the trash... it's the American way. Nobody ever had fun on a rigid 26" wheel bike with cantilevers, not once, not ever. The sport of mountain biking wasn't worth participating in until modern suspension, disc brakes, and slack geometry were offered.
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...77dc834f85.jpg A stolen pic of my first real MTB, it was a big step up from the single speed Schwinn Typhoon with Arya aluminum rims and a single massive rear side pull brake. |
Originally Posted by Darth Lefty
(Post 22631065)
"It's still good, it could be worth X" is how people get to be hoarders. For me this bike for "free" would be about as profitable as a "free puppy" but I am not a bike flipper.
I have zero interest in owning the bike in question, but I would totally grab it. I’d either sell it or more likely give it away. |
Originally Posted by venturi95
(Post 22692757)
Yes, just leave a functional bike in the trash... it's the American way. Nobody ever had fun on a rigid 26" wheel bike with cantilevers, not once, not ever. The sport of mountain biking wasn't worth participating in until modern suspension, disc brakes, and slack geometry were offered.
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...77dc834f85.jpg A stolen pic of my first real MTB, it was a big step up from the single speed Schwinn Typhoon with Arya aluminum rims and a single massive rear side pull brake. Good for the OP. They drop bikes off at my local dump that get picked up by a person who disperses them throughout south east Asia. Met him once, good guy. You can't take anything out of my local dump, nor buy it from them either. Zip, nada. Closest thing I have to the 2000 is this thrift find from 2020. Did have to pay $120. Seat peddles, riser, and tires brought it to $280. The seat is on the Grizzly for now.... https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...5e27748fe8.jpg |
Originally Posted by Kapusta
(Post 22448307)
I would definitely do a rebuild if you plan to actually keep it. If you are looking to flip it, it is likely not worth it. On the other hand, considering the bike was free you would still get your money back, though.
Hard to say what it is worth. As a functional MTB, Its pretty weak by today's standards. For what most people actually use 90s era hardtail mtbs for these days, the shock may be of little value. OTOH, to someone who wants a sort-of-vintage bike in what looks to be fairly original period-appropriate dress, this could be worth more. Personally, if it were me, I would likely get the shock rebuilt and see how enjoy riding it. |
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