She just played shuttle-mom for one of my kids and his friend. She is now with the friend in the ER while he gets a CAT scan.

Maybe I should stick to old fogey gravel biking.

didnt Cannondale do this with the scalpel long ago? Also Moots YBB?

not logging in to argue as I didn’t do any fact checking , But just going off of memory

Slingshot also had a carbon pivot, although not a chai stay or seatstay one

Oh no!! I hope the friend is okay.

This is part of why I chose a hardtail for my current MTB.

Just brought him home from the hospital. Classic concussion but fortunately mild. Giro Switch mips probably saved his life. The helmet is toast. The jaw guard is cracked but held together. Lots of road rash (no knee pads). They spent a lot of time cleaning the wounds. I'm just grateful they didn't cheap out on the helmet. Apparently he was out cold and snoring.

Gary Fisher did a CF flex stay design on their Team Issue Sugar in 2003. Don’t tell Polaris or he will add you to his ignore list.

Far to heavy compared to what?

My full suspension bike is 27 lbs and and my Hardtail is 24 lbs.

My kid's Knolly Fugative

What's you full sus?

Spot Mayhem 130. Was 28 lbs and some change when I bought it, now it's 27 lbs after a carbon wheel upgrade. Could probably shave another pound if I got rid of the dropper post.

The Lux Trail line went on sale for a week, but I couldn't bring myself to pull the trigger, given that Pinkbike review (and a few others that corroborated it), and our previous experiences with various frame cracks.

So now I am looking at the Trek Supercaliber 9.7, and realizing it is only $50 less than the e-Caliber 9.6 (which comes with dropper post, better brakes and other components, but aluminum wheels). (Or maybe I should be content with what I currently have.)

I'm e-bike averse, so I won't ever recommend that choice - LOL. If the new bike will inspire you to ride in new ways, of be an improvement over what you currently have, go for it. For me, just riding a different bike on regular routes is a refreshing change of the experience.

If you are interested, Trek has most of the current models discounted by $1000 at the moment. A new version with slightly more travel and slacker head tube angle will be released it is rumored on August 10th, 2023.

A riding buddy is selling his GX-equipped Supercaliber for a very favorable price. If I were to buy it, I would swap all the parts from my Procal to the Super, and then rebuild the Procal as a singlespeed. It's REALLY tempting, but the reality is that I can't do it right now. I'm also still in love with my 21.5lb Procal. ;)