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Old 08-07-05, 06:39 PM
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Headphones on the trail...stupid idea!!!

So I go riding on the trail yesterday, it was a good ride. Suddenly, I come to this blind turn. I approach it like I have done many times before, click the bell a couple of times and shout "Bike Downhill". Enter when I thought it was safe when suddenly this guy takes the turn coming up the hill. I see him and shout "bike" again. He doesn't hear me cause he's got headphones on! I stay in my side of the trail when he sees me he panics, he pulls into my side to the path. I go to his side and then he goes back to his side again. It happened so fast that I fall on my right side, I couldn't unclip in time. Man, that just set me off!!! I got up and pointed to his headphones and told him that he was going to get someone killed sometime. He was apologetic but that's not enough. I could have got some equipment thrashed or worse yet, something broken on me. Not ranting, just giving you guys the heads-up on how stupid it is to wear headphones on the trail. At least turn them off on a blind turn. Stay safe. Late.
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Old 08-07-05, 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by G4teamG
So I go riding on the trail yesterday, it was a good ride. Suddenly, I come to this blind turn. I approach it like I have done many times before, click the bell a couple of times and shout "Bike Downhill". Enter when I thought it was safe when suddenly this guy takes the turn coming up the hill. I see him and shout "bike" again. He doesn't hear me cause he's got headphones on! I stay in my side of the trail when he sees me he panics, he pulls into my side to the path. I go to his side and then he goes back to his side again. It happened so fast that I fall on my right side, I couldn't unclip in time. Man, that just set me off!!! I got up and pointed to his headphones and told him that he was going to get someone killed sometime. He was apologetic but that's not enough. I could have got some equipment thrashed or worse yet, something broken on me. Not ranting, just giving you guys the heads-up on how stupid it is to wear headphones on the trail. At least turn them off on a blind turn. Stay safe. Late.
It's all a question of volume.
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Old 08-07-05, 09:01 PM
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Or just keep your head up while you ride.
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Old 08-07-05, 09:14 PM
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Last I checked, crying "bike downhill" and ringing a bell wasn't an acceptable substitute for taking a blind turn at anything other than a safe and sane speed on a multi-use trail. Would an equestrian or trail runner or downed cyclist have resulted in the same incident?

The guy wasn't helping matters if he couldn't hear anything, but there are prudent volumes to listen to tunes at, and even single earbud solutions (that's how I do it). Don't blame the equipment, blame the user!
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Old 08-07-05, 09:33 PM
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That post reminded me of the whole "guns don't kill people, PEOPLE kill people" saying.
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Old 08-07-05, 09:48 PM
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Its seems like if the dude would have stuck to his side you would have been alright, so you must have been taking the corner at a safe enough speed to completely control yourself. Ive almost had the same thing happen, like stated above you must also be able to control..even on the downhill, unless marked one way, you dont get a special privilge
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Old 08-07-05, 10:41 PM
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Speed dub, I wasn't crying. I was aware of where I was going. The rider with the headphones didn't hear me coming. Maybe next time I'll just hit him head on and then we'll see if that will get his attention. Like I said, it was a blind turn. I can't bare all the responsibility for the situation. What more could I do. Iwas riding at a safe speed. He just didn't know I was there until it was too late. He was the one that panicked. He should have stayed in his lane. Like I said, if you wear headphones (his were the earbud typed) keep them low or kill them for a few moments. It still would be the safe thing to do. Late
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Old 08-07-05, 11:31 PM
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the title should be....

Loud volume with headphones... stupid idea

Sounds like he was an idiot riding in the middle of the trail anyways(on a blind corner)

Please don't be mad at us who use headphones, because of one idiot.
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Old 08-07-05, 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by G4teamG
I wasn't crying.
Sorry, poor choice of word on my part. I meant it as "calling out", not whining!

I hear what you're saying. It wasn't clear from your post if you were on singletrack or fireroad, but it sounds as if there was enough room for safe passing if the dude didn't **** and change up.

Still... if he spooked, would a horse be expected not to spook under the same circumstance? Just expressing some concern for caution, although it's practically an unavoidable circumstance from a downhill rider's perspective.
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Old 08-08-05, 07:28 AM
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Or just use 1 headphone (if they're ear buds of course). That's what I do when I snowboard.
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Old 08-08-05, 06:04 PM
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You guys are right, I should have worded the heading a little different. Life goes on, now if I see a horse with headphones...nevermind.
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Old 08-08-05, 06:18 PM
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i ride horses also and most horses would be spooked by those turns if you were going a moderate speed. unless they are trail horses which jsut follow the a** in front of them.

i dont think that was your fualt at all becuase he had his headphones at a high volume, and he should have stayed on his right side. i cant do that becasue the only'headphones i wear say shure on them. so i cant hear a thing.
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Old 08-08-05, 08:26 PM
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well, the uphill rider gets right-of-way priviledge over a downhill rider as part of basic mtn biking trail etiquette. although from your description, it was a blind corner, and he was the one who swerved into your path.
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Old 08-09-05, 04:31 AM
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Originally Posted by G4teamG
You guys are right, I should have worded the heading a little different. Life goes on, now if I see a horse with headphones...nevermind.
I can see why you would be bitter at guys with headphones on (or in). And I really don't blame you. I am just asking you to not put all of us in the same group as the idiot.
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Old 08-09-05, 09:48 PM
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remember, there are deaf riders out there. If you yelled anything while I am in front of you.. please do not expect me to react. I am completely deaf.

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Old 08-10-05, 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by jallen
remember, there are deaf riders out there. If you yelled anything while I am in front of you.. please do not expect me to react. I am completely deaf.
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I was just going to make this point.

Don't yell something and ring your bell and expect right of way, conversely this guy should have been watching where he was going.
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Old 08-10-05, 11:12 AM
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I believe it depends upon the trail and what you're doing. If you're going up a fire road climb, I have no problem with someone dawning some tunes for the ascent but, if you're going to be cruising singletrack or if you're descending, then I really think they're a stupid idea.

Singletrack does not afford one the luxury of being able to see what's coming and, when you're descending, you should be able to hear what's coming and listen to what your bike's doing otherwise you could be in for a nasty surprise.

Just my $.02
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Old 08-10-05, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by tFUnK
well, the uphill rider gets right-of-way priviledge over a downhill rider as part of basic mtn biking trail etiquette. although from your description, it was a blind corner, and he was the one who swerved into your path.
Yield to climber, stop, pull over, whatever is necessary. You crashed to avoid him. Well done. So what's the problem? Next time maybe you can control your speed going downhill around blind corners. There is no his side/my side off road. The whole trail belongs to the climber.
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Maybe I wasn't clear. We BOTH had enough space to continue our climb/descent. Problem was he panicked and left me no other choice but to crash. If he was not distracted by his headphones he would have heard me. Also, he should have kept his head up, he was the one going uphill. I saw him with plenty of time to avoid an accident, yet, by the time he realized Iwas in front of him it was waaaaaay to late. By the way, I always yeild to the climber. My speed was definitely under control, he was just completely distracted. As for deaf riders, that would be a case of that rider being MORE in touch with his surroundings. Obviously, he is aware of his situation. There is no way we can be. And finally, if I knew a deaf rider was going to be hit by another bike I would STILL shout out to him/her. Just my take. Peace.
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Ive had to go into the woods before on straight double track because I was riding the same direction as a jogger with headphones on and as I kept hollering and ringing my bell and slowing down she finally heard me and got spooked and kinda did a oh $h@T dance all over the trail and I had no place to go but into the woods. she looked too good in her spandex to get pissed at though so I just pointed at her head phones( the big home looking ones) and smiled as I picked my bike up off the pine tags . I ride in the same direction as horse riders as well as joggers and unless they have the volume up its never a problem. there is 1 blind corner in Battlefield that one day Im afraid Im going to hit someone in going toward me with headphones on. Ive had some close calls so I hit that corner real slow with the brake fingers at the ready and ringing the crap out of my bell. equestrians have told me they sometimes mistake me for the ice cream man before they see me at the end of the corner. its a tree stump blown over so if we can remove it this fall the blind spot will be gone. blind corners on multi use trails suck
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Old 08-10-05, 11:38 PM
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Hmmm, last I checked people riding uphill are supposed to have the right-of-way anyway.
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Old 08-10-05, 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by jallen
remember, there are deaf riders out there. If you yelled anything while I am in front of you.. please do not expect me to react. I am completely deaf.

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Then expect me to cuss you out in ASL
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For what?? hahaha For being slow?

Do you know ASL, Raiyn?
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