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Metzinger 03-29-10 07:47 AM

I'm checking in to see how scelia's leg healed up.
Invisible? Whitish discoloration? It's important that I know. Pics?

BearSquirrel 03-29-10 06:17 PM


Originally Posted by legalize (Post 5780433)
Yeah that is some scary ****. I'm not willing to clip in for some gain in speed so I can fall and have my leg mangled. But that's probably why I don't do racing :D

I've gotten "stuck" during a crash more than once. Either I ended up pinned or the cleats end up releasing. I would estimate that they've saved me more bumps than they've caused. Dislocated feet are atypical. However, it's worth noting that with some SPD style pedals you can adjust the release tension. If you have them cranked down, it makes such an injury more likely.

mystolenbikes 03-29-10 07:17 PM


Originally Posted by Metzinger (Post 10592369)
I'm checking in to see how scelia's leg healed up.
Invisible? Whitish discoloration? It's important that I know. Pics?

I have bunch of scars from my flat pedals. Color of the scar depends on the depth of the gash you have on your leg, mine ranges from deep purple(really deep cuts) to barely visible white discoloration.

I got to tell you this though...When I used to ride fire roads only I used clipless pedals but when I started do very technical single track I went back to flats because of the idea of getting stuck on my bike while I was coming on some down gnarly rock garden scared the crap out of me and ironically most of my injuries or scars happened because of the flats because no matter how hard I pressed on those pedals somehow they would slip and put a gash on my shins or back of my legs. So about a month I decided to give clipless pedals another shot, first couple rides were bit scary but once I got use to them I had so much more control over the bike it's crazy. I actually went and bought a pair of wellgos with one side flat and one side clipless and I'm telling you I won't be going back to flats ever again. Ok I'll use the flat side of my pedals when I take my bike to the beach. :D
And I almost forgot since I put the clipless pedals I haven't had a scratch, in fact I had two pretty good spills one yesterday and one today both times my feet came off just fine.:thumb:

adclark 03-29-10 08:32 PM


Originally Posted by dstrong (Post 10592337)
Yep. Responding to the OP of a 3+ year old post is ridiculous but posting to a thread with a lot of good info isn't if the topic still relevant. In my case, I got here because of a search and basically there are a lot of great posts to the question I was wondering about...is there a point where terrain gets too technical for clipless? The short answer is "no, but ride with what you're comfortable" and there are a lot of good arguments for both sides.

I agree, that's what I meant in my first post. This thread has a lot of good info imo, but I didn't notice that the post that dug up this thread was directed at the OP.

Greyryder 03-30-10 01:04 AM


Originally Posted by mystolenbikes (Post 10595815)
I have bunch of scars from my flat pedals. Color of the scar depends on the depth of the gash you have on your leg, mine ranges from deep purple(really deep cuts) to barely visible white discoloration.

First rule of flats. The less likely you are to slip them, the more damage they'll do when you do slip 'em.

I figure I'm flirting with disaster.
http://www.quantumrip.com/images/sx_bmx6.jpg

dstrong 03-30-10 08:00 AM

http://consilience.typepad.com/photo...20shark202.jpg

:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

victim 03-30-10 09:35 AM

^^^ Agree. Those pedals will make marks you don't come back from. Insane.

There's a learning curve with good platforms too, but you can use shin protection until your comfortable getting off the pedal without shredding your calf. 661 makes lightweight Velcro guards that work good. Definitely pros and cons to each system

dminor 03-30-10 09:46 AM


Originally Posted by mtnbiker66 (Post 10588794)
.....or someone could start a new thread that didn't have e-dust on it.

This is what I get for not looking at threads when the subject bores me. Ancient thread gets revived and starts to take on new life with a page of posts. Holy crap. Thread closed.

Covalent Jello 03-30-10 09:50 AM

boo :)

victim 03-30-10 10:50 AM


Originally Posted by dminor (Post 10598112)
This is what I get for not looking at threads when the subject bores me. Ancient thread gets revived and starts to take on new life with a page of posts. Holy crap. Thread closed.

I just put a plug in for one of your sponsors too.

Jbat35 04-01-10 10:09 AM

Flat pedals are great for technical riding and if you have to get a foot out to turn really quick. Also if you do a drop or hit a log, its a lot easier to ditch your bike and prevent yourself from getting racked by the seat or handle bars.

However, remember with flat pedals your only getting half of the efficiency since only down-strokes count. And its a lot easier to lift your bike up when hoping instead of trying to bounce up and explode forward. Most you can pop out of fairly easily, but when it comes down to split seconds it can be tough.

Personally I disagree with the idea they are safer. They might prevent your ankle from getting scratched, but if you go off a drop and your going to crash or you botch the landing, you either ditch your bike and roll with a few scrapes and bruises, or stay with it and end up in a stretcher. But if your not doing jumps and drops, and your not dodging trees clip-less are great.

dminor 04-01-10 10:20 AM

OK, will people please stop "helping" so this thread can go back to archive land?

mystolenbikes 04-01-10 10:28 AM


Originally Posted by dminor (Post 10608477)
OK, will people please stop "helping" so this thread can go back to archive land?

Why?
This thread has over 4000 hits so I guess people wanna know. :)

Covalent Jello 04-01-10 12:56 PM


Originally Posted by dminor (Post 10608477)
OK, will people please stop "helping" so this thread can go back to archive land?

Who cares?

Covalent Jello 04-01-10 12:57 PM


Originally Posted by dminor (Post 10608477)
OK, will people please stop "helping" so this thread can go back to archive land?

Who caaaaares

edit: oops, double post, but irony & lolz @ adding insult to anti-archiving injury

Wildflower 04-05-10 06:21 PM

clipless pedals - dangerous?
 
c:)
Please don't close the thread. Lots of people are either getting clipless pedals or having problems and if it wasn't such an issue, then people wouldn't be searching for information from people who actually have experience with them.
I posted on this thread when I had just got my clipless pedals and after falling off several times, I was wondering about going back to my trusty toeclips.
Yay! I haven't fallen off in two weeks :lol:and it's really worth the effort; more power and getting easier by the day. Toeclips are still good though.

Covalent Jello 04-05-10 07:05 PM

It's so odd to read about people falling off on clipless pedals because it is such a foreign idea, being someone who has never used clips much, lol!!
You can kind of mimic clips if you have pegs in your pedals though, even though it's more of a dragging your foot motion than a lifting your leg motion

MillCreek 04-06-10 09:12 AM

Back in 1996, I had a problem with sticky cleats and could not unclip in time. I fell over on my left side and fractured my left hip. I still have the three pins in my femoral neck. I now have platform pedals with strapless toeclips on all six bicycles. For the type of recreational riding that I now do, safety trumps efficiency. I get the occasional odd look when I show up for a club ride on my expensive bicycles, though.

Wildflower 04-13-10 02:45 AM


Originally Posted by Covalent Jello (Post 10628136)
It's so odd to read about people falling off on clipless pedals because it is such a foreign idea, being someone who has never used clips much, lol!!
You can kind of mimic clips if you have pegs in your pedals though, even though it's more of a dragging your foot motion than a lifting your leg motion

It's only odd if you are one of the lucky people that hasn't ever, or doesn't ever fall off. I discovered that when I got the new pedals, my brain was wired for the toeclip movement (to pull my foot out rather than move it sideways) and that's what I tried to do when I stopped and thus fell over several times. I was very frightened because my feet were stuck on to the pedals and I wasn't sure how to get them out in a hurry. It's o.k. on the trainer in the shop, but then you are not going to fall off on a trainer, are you? It is now about 3 weeks from last Saturday that I got the new pedals and I'm getting better every day. I still have to think consciously all the time when I'm going to stop and mentally rehearse the movement. It's getting smoother and I haven't fallen off since the first week. I wish I was one of the people who never fell off, but having fallen, I've learned that I'd rather not have fallen off!!! it hurts, Lots!

RatedZ 04-13-10 11:00 AM

Maybe I'm gonna be the odd man out, but there's no way I'd ever use anything that stuck my feet to pedals on a bicycle. Second nature or not, the moment it takes to unclip could be the difference between a life and death situation (stopping for a car...) or breaking an arm.

I guess I'm just of old-school "BMX philosophy;" get some "bear-traps" and hope your shins don't make contact with them. :)

Ajenkins 04-13-10 11:58 AM


Originally Posted by RatedZ (Post 10664210)
Maybe I'm gonna be the odd man out, but there's no way I'd ever use anything that stuck my feet to pedals on a bicycle. Second nature or not, the moment it takes to unclip could be the difference between a life and death situation (stopping for a car...) or breaking an arm.

I guess I'm just of old-school "BMX philosophy;" get some "bear-traps" and hope your shins don't make contact with them. :)

This from a guy whose longest ride is 15 miles. You might want to get a little experience before you start bustin' loose with all the 'tude, sparky. You're trying to pee all over the place and you don't even know where your zipper is yet.

RatedZ 04-13-10 01:00 PM


Originally Posted by Ajenkins (Post 10664529)
This from a guy whose longest ride is 15 miles. You might want to get a little experience before you start bustin' loose with all the 'tude, sparky. You're trying to pee all over the place and you don't even know where your zipper is yet.

Way to make an attempt at ruining another thread. You're just gonna run your mouth all over this forum, aren't you? I made a statement, nothing more. How'bout if you wanna start an argument, you keep it in one thread, eh? You see any attitude? I don't, and it's doubtful anyone else sees any attitude with my post, either.

Get a life. Clipless pedals have nothing to do with how far someone's ridden a bike, and why do you care how far I've ridden a bike?

Covalent Jello 04-13-10 01:04 PM

you guys do realize you're fighting over pedals, right? :D

Chris_F 04-13-10 01:07 PM

The only problem I've ever had on clipless was when I lost a cleat bolt on my SPDs which caused the cleat to stick in the pedal and not rotate with my shoe so that I couldn't unclip. I ended up on the ground, which wasn't a big deal because I frequently end up on the ground anyways because I'm a hack. That's the only time that my clipless pedals have caused me to fall or contributed in some way.

Before I got 'em however I can't count the number of times my feet slipped off the pedals causing me to take a seat nose or top bar to the pills...

RatedZ 04-13-10 01:12 PM


Originally Posted by Covalent Jello (Post 10664906)
you guys do realize you're fighting over pedals, right? :D

Actually, what he's upset over is the fact that I bashed his spandex shorts in another thread, then posted a picture of Milli Vanilli. Therefore, he's found it necessary to stalk me into any thread I post in and try to attack me.

It's okay, his spandex shorts are just a little too tight, and they're cutting the circulation off to his uh...brain. :thumb:

Let's not entertain him by allowing him to ruin another thread. I'm interested in hearing more about the clipless pedals. :)

I've just added the fool to an ignore list in effort to alleviate the problem. Just a suggestion, but you may want to consider the same. ;)

DX-MAN 04-13-10 01:37 PM

Apple, you must ride some seriously gnarly trails, dude!

I like clipless mainly for this reason -- when I'm 'attached' to the bike, it's like it becomes part of me, the feedback is exponential. With platforms, I'm just 'on the bike', and don't feel that level of control, or even of being part of the ride. It's just exercise.

It's synergistic, for me -- a bike with clipless is: 1+1 =>3; a bike with platforms is: 1+1 <2.

Greyryder 04-14-10 02:38 AM


Originally Posted by RatedZ (Post 10664210)
Maybe I'm gonna be the odd man out, but there's no way I'd ever use anything that stuck my feet to pedals on a bicycle. Second nature or not, the moment it takes to unclip could be the difference between a life and death situation (stopping for a car...) or breaking an arm.

I guess I'm just of old-school "BMX philosophy;" get some "bear-traps" and hope your shins don't make contact with them. :)

I have the same aversion to being attached to my bike. That said, competent clipless pedal riders can clip out as fast as we can get our feet off of our shin killers. With practice and use unclipping becomes second nature, and you don't even have to think about it, anymore. Or, so I've been told by BMXers who run clipless.

RatedZ 04-14-10 02:51 AM


Originally Posted by Greyryder (Post 10668017)
I have the same aversion to being attached to my bike. That said, competent clipless pedal riders can clip out as fast as we can get our feet off of our shin killers. With practice and use unclipping becomes second nature, and you don't even have to think about it, anymore. Or, so I've been told by BMXers who run clipless.

Well, that's what they say about clipless, but I still don't know how willing I'd be to entertain the concept of literally being locked to my bike. I'm comfortable with the basic method of riding on flats, and I can certainly appreciate some of the claimed advantages of clipless, but I guess in the grand scheme of things, I'm not all that interested in the risk of breaking an arm or a leg while trying to pull my foot from a pedal. It just sounds really dangerous. There are too many variables; "What if I'm sailing towards traffic and my foot doesn't engage? What if I'm heading for a tree and my foot doesn't engage? Etc."

Greyryder 04-14-10 02:55 AM

Part of my problem, too. That, and you need special shoes. I always just wear my regular clothes, when I'm on my bike.

RatedZ 04-14-10 03:02 AM


Originally Posted by Greyryder (Post 10668030)
Part of my problem, too. That, and you need special shoes. I always just wear my regular clothes, when I'm on my bike.

Same here. I guess I'm just not dedicated enough to spring for the expense of special shoes just to ride a bike. If I were just heading to the trail, or going for a fast street ride and just heading back home, maybe I'd consider it, but if I stop somewhere, I'm not going to be changing shoes just so I can walk into a Quickie-Mart to buy a Slurpee.


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