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Old 12-02-05, 05:21 PM
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Bruiser/Hardrock Comparison

This thread is for people who have/have ridden both of the bikes and have something CONSTRUCTIVE to say about it. I am working on my opinion of the Hardrock, so far so good.
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Old 12-02-05, 05:23 PM
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Kona Rules!!!

*edit*sorry, was a little bored*

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Old 12-02-05, 05:32 PM
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Wow! That was funny. How old are we?
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Old 12-02-05, 08:47 PM
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I felt the frame of a hardrock at the bike shop, and it was ok... I didn't ride it though, so I wont say anything on that.
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Old 12-02-05, 10:39 PM
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Can't tell how a bike is by how the frame feels.
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Never said I could.
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Old 12-03-05, 06:09 AM
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I own a Hardrock Sport although I have test ridden my friends Bruiser a lot of times.

Hardrock Sport:

PROs:
Frame feels sturdy, gives confidence
After swapping out to a slightly shorter stem, the bar+stem rise&length combo rocks
Decent tires
Seat is pretty nice + V groove
CONs:
Pedals are crap
Outer chainring seems to bend easily
Tires wear away fairly fast

Bruiser 1
PROs:
Feels *very* sturdy
Wide tires, grip surprisingly well
Disc ready
Something about the frame makes it easy to wheelie...
CONs:
Seat is UNCOMFORTABLE!
Rims seem to come untrue SLIGHTLY faster than the Hardrock's rims
Something doesn't feel right with the bar+stem combo
Fork feel is decent, until you ride for a few weeks and blow the internals (both of my friends who have Bruisers blew their forks in less than a month)

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Old 12-03-05, 08:05 AM
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Thank you for the actually helpful response. I will write a report later after taking the Hardrock out for another ride, I think I am going to get a shorter stem, the one now is massive.
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Old 12-03-05, 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by bruiser2
Thank you for the actually helpful response. I will write a report later after taking the Hardrock out for another ride, I think I am going to get a shorter stem, the one now is massive.
You're welcome. As for a shorter stem, do it, I got a shorter stem for free from my LBS when I went and bought it, and now it handles great.
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Old 12-03-05, 11:02 AM
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i actually rather like the hardrock stem :S
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Old 12-03-05, 11:27 AM
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I had the handlebars on my hardrock fade and turn a crappy gold/rusty color after about 10 months. Replaced them with PlanetX DH bars, and the stem with a SIC Slam X. Now the bike feels more stable on rough downhill stuff, but it's not very comfortable for long rides (might be the seat)

EDIT: Even though the Planet X bars are about 3 inches wider than the stock ones, they are unbelievably stiff compared to them. Almost feels like riding a good set of braced BMX bars, just.. not quite
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Old 12-03-05, 11:47 AM
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I actually prefer the bontrager seat that comes on the Bruiser2 it has more padding than the other. Just don't sit too far back on it because the last 2-3 inches are incredibly flimsy. I'm probably going to turn the Hardrock into more of a trail bike and keep the bruiser on FR duty, that way I don't have to worry about practicality for long rides when selecting parts.
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Old 12-03-05, 11:57 AM
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And as for my comparison:
Hardrock-Pros
Better for long rides
*Feels* lighter
I like the riser bars
3 rings upfront(though I only use 2)
Hardrock-Cons
Not as manueverable(probably due to size)
Stock fork sucks
I absolutely HATE the shifters/brakes being one assembly
Stem's too long
Tires wear very easily
Stock pedals blow

Bruiser2- Pros
Disc brakes work well
More manueverability
More solid feeling(able to put more trust into the bike)
Bashring
Brakes and shifters two seperate assemblies
Bruiser2- Cons
Stock fork too springy
Tires seem to allow punctures VERY easily(since switching haven't had one flat)
Bars could use more rise
Wheels seem really weak for their high weight(my rear rim has an actually flat spot 2 inches long, I feel like I'm riding on a sidewalk all the time)
Pedals don't offer too much grip
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Old 12-03-05, 12:02 PM
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hey but dont forget that you're comparing a bruiser 2 to a hardrock sport. a fairer comparison would be the hardrock sport to the bruiser1
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Old 12-03-05, 12:11 PM
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Maybe so but I don't have a Bruiser 1. For it to be "fair" you would need two completely stock bikes as well. I was just comparing the two bikes I have. But the only real difference between the two is the disc brakes, other than that I'm mostly comparing the differences you get from the frame. My comparison of ride is based from when both bikes had the same mz comp fork. And since a Bruiser 1 has the same frame as the 2 and both bikes were given the same front suspension, I would say it is pretty fair.
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Old 12-03-05, 12:24 PM
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yes but that isn't exactly fair either. if you were comparing FRAMES ONLY then sure. but if you're comparing two bikes, then they should be both bone stock, and at the same level. don't forget, they weren't exactly designed for the same purpose either.
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I'd like to have a hardrock
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Old 12-03-05, 07:43 PM
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I've riden hardrocks and don't like a few things about them.
*Hardrocks arn't as manoeuverable
*Frame geometry feels weird
*Frame looks cheesy
*Doesn't have a bashguard
*crappy pedals
Bruiser dislikes:
*Tires pinch flat VERY easily
*Mx 1 calipers suck moose

Likes for the Hardrock:
*Strong frame
*Cheap
Likes for the Bruiser:
*AWESOME rectangular frame
*easy to get on the rear wheel
*Easier to hop around on
*HAS a bash guard

I've found that the Bruiser's rims are very strong. Although, I'm getting a new front one .
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Old 12-03-05, 07:57 PM
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I've enjoyed my Hardrock Sport for the few weeks that I've had it. I like nearly everything about it except the pedals, but they're good enough for what I use it for.
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don't forget, the bruiser is designed to be a, well, bruiser, while the hardrock is designed to be a do-everything bike.
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Old 12-03-05, 08:11 PM
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well i have a bruiser obviously
and i just finished a 7 hour day of fr/dh/trail riding/road/urban day of riding and i have to say, it does it all, fr as long as your smooth alond with dh, the others is just plain fun...i was riding with a friend with a hardrock, he doesnt push it at all like it could be but ill tell you in the right hands, it can do everything my bruiser can...the geometry is different ill say that but if you get used to one/other that shouldnt matter...just my 2 cents
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Old 12-03-05, 08:36 PM
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is the bruiser now called teh Jack? I can't find the bruiser anymore on the trek website 06 bike catalog.
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Old 12-03-05, 08:47 PM
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i think the jack is a completly new bike/frame...its the bruisers replacement i guess...sad times
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The bruiser looks ugly to me.

My opinion only ofcourse.
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Jack replaced bruiser, I like the bruiser 2 more than the Jack 2 though.
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