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Old 12-07-05, 03:57 PM
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Help with wheel sets

I'm looking to upgrade rims on my bike this winter and I have no idea where to start. I know I want to spend around $300 and would like to go to disc brakes. Can anyone give me any advise as far as reputable companies that make descent wheel sets?

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From what I've heard around here,
http://www.pricepoint.com/detail/120...-Lite-Rims.htm
this wheelset is greatly praised.
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It certainly is by me. However I'm not sure of woody's riding style or weight. This is a good wheel for light freeride / Clydesdale XC. It's not terribly heavy, but it certainly is not a race wheel, but it's good and strong and reasonably cheap
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Originally Posted by Raiyn
It certainly is by me. However I'm not sure of woody's riding style or weight. This is a good wheel for light freeride / Clydesdale XC. It's not terribly heavy, but it certainly is not a race wheel, but it's good and strong and reasonably cheap
I'm 5'5" and weigh 155. I ride technical singletrack and would like to do some XC racing next year.

I've done a lot of research on other components but never looked into wheel sets and would like to upgrade this winter.

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If you have an LBS with a good wheelbuilder, give them a call and they'll customize your wheelset to fit your needs. They'll build them by hand, not machine built, so the spokes will be straight and tensioned correct so you won't have problems later on. Also, the LBS guys will give you different options on lacing the spokes, whereas mail-order or online there are no options like this!

Now, if you don't have an LBS with a good wheelbuilder, give Speedgoat a call. They'll get you "fitted" with a great wheelset. http://www.speedgoat.com/
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You're light, you can use whatever rims you want, really .

I find Speed Goat's wheel prices to be awfully high. For "higher end" wheels I'd try Colorado Cyclist first (as long as you don't mind Chris King hubs ; Colorado Cyclist has well respected wheel builders). For fully custom selection, try your LBS or give Colorado Cyclist a call, I'm sure they can beat Speed Goat's pricing. If King is too heavy (heh), you might want to go with DT Swiss or American Classic.

Now, back to your price range: I, like you, was looking for the XC wheels at the ~$300 mark. I ended up going with the Mavic XC 717 Disc wheels with Hope XC hubs from here. I can't say I've been particularly hard on them. A lot of commuting and some light XC-type riding. No huge drops (6" tops), but I weigh 200 lbs (I'm working on losing the extra weight again ) and they've been fine for me (still perfectly straight and spinning very well). Hope hubs use cartridge bearings, so they're a little more part-intensive to maintain but should require less maintanence than non-cartridge hubs.
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Originally Posted by woody
I'm looking to upgrade rims on my bike this winter and I have no idea where to start. I know I want to spend around $300 and would like to go to disc brakes. Can anyone give me any advise as far as reputable companies that make descent wheel sets?

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if this is a winter project, why don't you make it a goal to build your own?? i purchased the Park spoke tension meter as well as the "week-end warrior" Park truing stand.

i mean i'm not going to lie to you...but they're pretty much like the best wheels ever!

just kidding. seriously though, they came out great. i doubt a pro could of done better...albeit faster, but not better.

i had the pleasure of selecting the exact spokes, nipples, rims, and hubs that I desired.

just a thought...we can guide you through the process

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Originally Posted by woody
I'm 5'5" and weigh 155. I ride technical singletrack and would like to do some XC racing next year.
See folks, the Rhynolite isn't the best choice for this one.
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I like the idea of building your own wheels.

If that seems overwhelming for you try these

They should be right up your alley. I would suggest getting the spokes hand tensioned before you ride them though.

Add two bb7's and you are a bit closer to $400 than $300, but it is really money well spent on quality usefull upgrades.
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I like the idea of building my own wheels. I would be able to learn something new and get some satisfaction out of the project.

Now I have to figure out what kind of spokes, nipples, rims and hubs I want!
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Originally Posted by woody
I like the idea of building my own wheels. I would be able to learn something new and get some satisfaction out of the project.

Now I have to figure out what kind of spokes, nipples, rims and hubs I want!
Just let us know when you need help. Raiyn helped me quite a bit with this. He recommended the sheldonbrown website and i used that primarily for the lacing pattern. i used a couple different spoke length calculators to try and get as much accuracy as possible. you'll need specific hub measurements and rim as well, most of which you can get from the manufacturer and it would be nice to have a verneer (sp?) caliper to check measurements. an expensive one is not necessary...mm accuracy is all you need.

i went with DT Supercomp spokes 2.0/1.7/1.8 and brass nipples pre treated with locking compound. i chose disc specific rims...i believe Sun dsc-1. i was limited on hub choice because of the brake adapter i used in the rear for my bike that did not have caliper mounts.
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Originally Posted by mx_599
Just let us know when you need help. Raiyn helped me quite a bit with this. He recommended the sheldonbrown website and i used that primarily for the lacing pattern. i used a couple different spoke length calculators to try and get as much accuracy as possible. you'll need specific hub measurements and rim as well, most of which you can get from the manufacturer and it would be nice to have a verneer (sp?) caliper to check measurements. an expensive one is not necessary...mm accuracy is all you need.

i went with DT Supercomp spokes 2.0/1.7/1.8 and brass nipples pre treated with locking compound. i chose disc specific rims...i believe Sun dsc-1. i was limited on hub choice because of the brake adapter i used in the rear for my bike that did not have caliper mounts.
Thank you! I appreciate the help and advice.

I'm just starting to look into tools that I'll need for this project and than I'll need to research parts.
I'm hoping to get started on the wheels within the next few weeks. I'll definitely post any questions or concerns.

Again, thanks!
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Chris King and whole wheelset don't seem to fit very well together in the $300 and under category, two chris king hubs would set you back like $300 alone, nice stuff though
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Originally Posted by woody
I'm 5'5" and weigh 155. I ride technical singletrack and would like to do some XC racing next year.

I've done a lot of research on other components but never looked into wheel sets and would like to upgrade this winter.

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Not certain of U.S. prices, but one thing I would recommend is getting Hand built wheels by a good Builder. A good starting point is XT hubs to a Good quality light Rim. I have always used Mavic rims and use 517's on most of my wheels. Then the spokes- I always use DT butted spokes, and a set of wheels like this will set you well inside your budget. Then you can look at the manufactured wheels but to be honest, they are not as Good as the Hand built unless you Go well over your budget. You can improve on the Hubs and the Hope XC hubs are good.
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If you decide to not build your own wheels give Mike Garcia a call at www.oddsandendos.com . He is one of the best wheel builders around and his prices are very reasonable.
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Does anybody have anything good or bad to say about the FSA XC-300 wheelset? I've heard nothing but good things about them and was thinking about getting them. You can them for about $315. Are they worth it?
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I've only heard good things about the FSA's as well. I've always been a pretty big FSA fan though. I think they make great products and they keep the price reasonable.
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Does anybody have anything good or bad to say about the FSA XC-300 wheelset? I've heard nothing but good things about them and was thinking about getting them. You can them for about $315. Are they worth it?
do you have a link to them or details?
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do you have a link to them or details?
http://www.speedgoat.com/product.asp...t=360&brand=91

http://www.fullcycles.com/product_in...roducts_id/265

I hope these work. I'm new at this.
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If you did decide to go with the rhynolites you can get them AND the bb7's for 235. Everything together weighs 3168 grams. I was thinking of getting the set for my hardrock.
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do you have a link to them or details?
You can also check them out at www.fullspeedahead.com . For reviews go here. They have received a 5/5 with 6 reviews.
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Does anybody have anything good or bad to say about the FSA XC-300 wheelset? I've heard nothing but good things about them and was thinking about getting them. You can them for about $315. Are they worth it?
they look pretty good. definitely light! they must be saving a lot of weight using 24 spokes. i do not have experience with less vs more spokes as far as ride and durability characteristics...you might want to investigate that before you buy them. my wheels are 32 spoked
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I wouldn't say the FSA's are overly light at 1800g (advertised on their website), especially considering they only have 24 spokes but they are cheaper.

If you look around for deals, I've found the American Classic 350 Disc wheels (1500g and 32 spoke count) for $350. They pop up on eBay too for around the same price (last pair I saw went for $375).

Or if you go to Odds and Endos that LowCel linked above, they have a custom wheelset (WTB/Velocity) for $360 that weighs ~1575g. (http://oddsandendos.safeshopper.com/17/79.htm?859 and http://oddsandendos.safeshopper.com/17/78.htm?859)
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WOW, never that is a great price on the Am Classic's. Didn't realize they sold that cheap on ebay.

I have only ordered one set of wheels from Mike Garcia. They are road bike wheels and they are awesome. The only reason I have ever had to true them was due to a crash. Mike is a great guy, only thing is if you give him a call be prepared to talk at least 30 minutes. He loves to talk about wheels and he makes sure that he builds the wheelet that is right for you.
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I just checked out the Odds and Endos site. Wow, that's cheap. I priced out a set of wheels with the same parts as Speedgoat and it's over $75 difference. That's... 3 bottles of Piramimma 2003 Petit Verdot!
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