Amen! We had a trail closed in out area last year,people destroyed it slidingans skiding. Hey Dufus,how much public trail work have you done?

Wow. That devolved in a hurry.

[Quote}I would be pleased if you tried it. that's the "differance" being okie.
If i wanna slide corners, i am going to DO IT & none of your wanna be strategic horse c**p is going to stop me their jr.
ooooooo & i'm telling...[End Quote}

It's just a shame that someone as rude as this is a cyclist of any kind. And has ruined a thread with a decent question by the OP and answers by several iteelligent BF members. Hope the mods read this thread and boot him.

Wow is this funny:)

Ummm - maybe I'm wrong, but I think stdufus might be having a little fun with you...?

wow, just wow. i am just glad you dont ride on my trails.

yeah i read it after and was like wait, oops, but i guess you can use some of those techniques in mountain biking

Raiyn: I was riding along purely & solitarily shotgun, YOU hit a corner with this & took to the linear path & started attacking MY intelligence by callling ME a "moron".I might very well be a "moron" but it taint your place to cast EMPTIES.If your aesthetics & morality are so strong as you claim, you should be cleaning not casting empties like some sort of baby.
Like i say "you do what you do, i do what i do." Deal with it.
STD

Nothing to worry about,
i wouldn't EVER Ride ones own personal trails without first getting consent. :)

no this is not normal. you need a new brake

you should ony be using your rear brake. by using your front brake you risk getting thrown over the bars. i suggest removing it so you'll save weight. furthermore, skidding stops you faster and is much cooler than threshhold braking. who cares if you're wrecking the trail. besides, liberals and hippies clean up the trail anyway.

Typical Sociopath.. inconsiderate of others and expects the same treatment in return. Everyone else has to clean up after.

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.......Troll.

Good lord, I feel dumber after reading all that.
Let me join in with Raiyn... you are a complete and utter moron. A total waste of space, air, and food. You're the type of selfish, stupid, utterly arrogant twit that forces the decent people of the planet to work that much harder to make things bearable for everyone else.

You can say what you want and do what you want? Fine, so do we. We have every right to judge you. It's our place to tell you what an idiot you are every single time you post. (In your case, however, we have to use shorter words, but... oh well.) You deserve all the poo being flung your way and then some.

Do us all a favor, 'dufus', go slap your parents for being such negligent trash. It's what they deserve for you turning out this way.

If you don't comprehend what i posted (the trail of this one you arrogantly attached your 2cents to) that's your business. I am not gonna kick up any chunks of trail to that. A cubicle slug goofball with the motto of "brewer of Kool-aid" is alright in my book :p
Everyone has to "join" in & be a part of something....eh? :rolleyes:
STD

PS, i had no "parents" , i was left on the trailside as a baby & raised up by the wolves :) .
Bigfoot has arrived!!

lol

Not really, i would analytically dub myself as a typical sociopolitician :)

OWN't

It was very fun to type.

You don't take care of the trail you ride ... do you????

Next time, instead of fishtailing your ride, try moving your weight into the front wheel moving into the corner, than inside the corner, lean to the inside while pushing the bike to the outside.

Beyond that, all skids accomplish is washing out your speed. In a turn, you have to translate your momentum from one direction to another. If you skid out, you aren't transferring that speed, you're rubber braking.

If you don't believe, try go carting some time on unregulated engines. Fishtailing through corners is a sure fire 100% way to lose your position.

Fellow cyclist,

MTB trails are not an invasive species. They aren't like kudzu that sprouts up at random for your personal use. They are not a government entitlement that you can demand from your local, state or federal municipality.

NONE of us own the trails. However, some of us do act as stewards. And we greatly appreciate it when users who do NOT contribute listen instead of lecturing. If you contributed and spent some time building and fixing trails, I think you would have more appreciation for why we:

a) Don't appreciate users locking up their back wheels around corners.
b) Don't appreciate users locking up their back wheels going downhill.

Both techniques tear up the trail surface and make it more vulnerable to erosion.

ive always been told to use my back break and my fornt break and neaver stop wiyh one, is this true or was my lbs lieing, oh yea dont try to jump your outlook (i kinda learned that the hard way)

It's been a while since I read Sheldon's "how to brake properly" tutorial, but I think he says something along the lines of (to heavily refactor as a paraphrase) "if you want a simplistic technique that's hardly perfect, just use both brakes together; it's better than always blindly using only one". If you have the time, read his website for some more insightful and detailed tips and advice.

I have been MTB'ng before there was such a things & i don't care about any of your "politicly* correct" rhetoric. Now if you CLAIM you have never slided on the off pavement terrain, YOU are a LIAR. Simple as that. One more thing, sliding can also be a psychological intimidation tool in competetive situations.
Most of this thread string is nothing but blowing smoke trying to show who is the best politicly* correct.
so :p . Let that go & "slide" away. :rolleyes:

(*politicly or politically,you choose) :)
STD

I call bs, it is people like you who get trails closed and in a competitive situation the only perception people will have of you if you slide a bike in the turns is of a dork and as of a bad rider. A good rider will break before or lightly brake in the turn and take the turn in an apex, in other terms you take it like a formula one car on a wide open course, go into the turn from the outside hit the bottom mid turn and exit high with a bunch of momentum. Sliding scrubs off too much speed, damages the trail, and is not impressive/intimidiating at all. If you put in consistent fast times, people will respect you and respect is much more effective than intimidation is.

I'm not lying at all about this, I never slid any of my bikes when cornering on the dirt, the only time I slid the rear tire was to finish off a tire that was about completely worn out, and that was on pavement, I was taught as a kid that sliding when cornering slows you down and is hard on the equipment.