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Fungus/Mold in Camelbak Bladder and Hose

Old 03-06-06, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by LUCAS
Thanks FF6800 and Edzo. Edzo, did you mean half a cup of bleach or half a capful of the bleach bottle lid?

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one half capful. like about a tablespoon worth.
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Old 03-06-06, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by idleuser
This is what's unsafe about bleach:

BLEACH: is a strong corrosive. It will irritate or burn the skin, eyes and respiratory tract. It may cause pulmonary edema or vomiting and coma if ingested. Never mix bleach with acid toilet bowl cleaners or ammonia. These mixtures may produce fumes which can be DEADLY.

By the way any type of alcohol will kill the mold/fungus, but it has to be at a high enough concentration. As previous users have posted, mouthwash will most likely do the trick (since it does contain alcohol), followed by rinsing, scrubbing, and maybe more mouthwash. Lemon juice also is a good idea. I personally wouldn't risk using bleach, even if you did rinse it out thoroughly.

you must still use green safty scissors, don 'cha ?


Bleach has been used forever, dude. it is unsafe sure. that is what bleach is all about.
unsafe to dirt and bacteria. it is the only thing universally accepted by hospitals and
food service to clean with, when advanced mixtures are not available.

why the scare tactic with bleach ? newflash...you use bleach on your camelbak to
GUARANTEE the crud dies. period. and bleach is cheap.
also, the mold in your camelbak will not hurt you,
but the bacteria from the mouth, that travels into the bitepiece...will hurt you.
that mouthpiece part is the key thing to clean., and by running bleach
into the bladder, then running the mouthpiece so some bleach dribbles out...
and waiting a bit....kills all

rinse your camelbak twice. still taste bleach ? perhaps, but what you taste is
harmless. after one solid rinse, it is physically safe, but will taste nasty. that
is why you do 3 or 4 hot rinses...not for safety, but for taste.
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Old 03-06-06, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by gastro
Bleach has killed everything I've ever managed to culture in there.

I don't know how much this Camelbak certified cleaning kit costs, but I bet it's more expensive and less accessible than some unflavored denture tabs (as seely mentioned) and a bent coathanger to use as a dryer/hanger.
I've done many.....many tests on bleach, hydrogen peroxide, and other oxidizers...and h2o2 was the best by far. Even 1% conc. killed all of the bacteria tested, while bleach only did damage beyond 10-20%.

I don't care to get into a knowledge war about bleach, oxidation, and ****....but IMO I wouldn't use bleach. Some soap by the sink and some good mechanical action will do just fine, since most bacteria is washed away with mechanical action anyway.

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Old 03-06-06, 12:50 PM
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Forgot to add....why not some h2o2 and just wash it out? thats cheaper than bleach by a long shot at like $0.30/bottle
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Old 03-06-06, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by seely
Lemon juice will kill the mold actually. Also, in the future, use UNFLAVORED denture tabs with hot water to clean the Camelback frequently... drop two tabs in there 3/4 full of hot water every once in awhile... I've got one CB thats 6-7 years old and it still has the original bladder, clean as can be after having beer, water, cytomax, etc etc etc in it. If you use mint, your CB will taste like mint forever.
beer!!!
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Old 03-06-06, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by willtsmith_nwi
Camelbak does not make the best packs in the world. They DO make the best water bladders in the world. Going from Camelbak to the POS they sell at Wal-Mart will likely be a dissapointing experience.

Jeesh, you don't toss out your plates just because they're dirty, whey would you do this for your hydration pack. Wash the thing when it gets moldy. If you want to stop this, store it in your beer fridge. That will keep the mold from growing.

And if you absoluetly HAVE to buy a new bladder, buy a Camelbak. Everything else is bound to dissapoint.
no...just the cleaning kit at walmart. it was like 8 bucks and has the hanger and special brushes
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Old 03-06-06, 01:47 PM
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Even if the bleach doesn't harm you, you can be sure your going to smell and taste hints of it after cleaning in your water.
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Old 03-06-06, 02:18 PM
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it is simple

the reason to use bleach instead of h2o2 is

you can smell and taste when bleach is in use, and
if it is not rinsed out enough

you cannot do this with h2o2. it may still exist
in harmful amounts but you don't know 'cuz you can't detect it
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Old 03-06-06, 02:43 PM
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Thanks for all your responses. I actually called Camelbak this morning and they suggest that I use two tablespoonful of bleach to a full load of water in the bladder. Squirt a few ounces off the valve, and then set aside for a whole day. Rinse thoroughly with hot water till bleach smell is all gone, then good to go.

For storage, the lady I talked to over there suggests filling with water and storing in the refrigerator.

Once again, thanks to all.

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Old 03-06-06, 06:55 PM
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I think you're going to be rinsing that sucker for a loooong time before that smell is gone after soaking for one entire day...no matter who told you to do it. But good luck.
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This fall, I found my camel back that was stored in September of 1999. I contacted CamelBak support, this is their exact reply:
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For the Pack. It really depends on how dirty your pack is and how you want to clean it. If it is really dirty you may soak it in a tub or bucket or you could place it in the bath tub. Wash with cold water and mild detergent then hang dry.

It is not recommended to place the CamelBak pack in the washing machine. By doing so, you will void your warranty.

For the reservoir The best thing to do is to clean your CamelBak after every use, especially if you use anything else in it other than water. If mold develops, then use warm to hot water with 2 TBSP of Bleach mix it up and hold the reservoir up above your head while you pinch the bite valve. This allows the bleached water to go through the tube. Let the reservoir sit for a few hours and then clean the reservoir as normal, with warm to hot water and mild soap. Allow the soapy water to run through the bite valve and let it sit for a few hours. This should take care any mold, you can also use the CamelBak brush from the cleaning kit to clean the tube out. If you have spots left fromthe mold, they will not come out no matter what you do because you have stained the tube/reservoir.
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There you go, straight from the camel's mouth. FWIW, I also found a couple of powerbars in the pack. I'm keeping them where they are as they are sort of a time capsule. If nothing else, they're hard enough to be some sort of tool.
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I just purchased a Camel Back. My LBS recommended I use vinegar instead of bleach. Acetic acid (vinegar) will work for routine maintenance, but trying to kill a long term mold growth requires some serious power. As has been said, a dilute solution of bleach will definetly do the job if your trying to rediscover Penicillin in your bladder. TO help get rid of the smell, try rinsing with water then mouthwash after using bleach to kill the growth.
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Old 03-07-06, 11:15 PM
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Instead of using the hanger after I rinse my camelback I just shove the tube inside it. This seperates the resevoir well enough and doesnt cost me extra. I have never had a problem with mold and rarely clean with soap, though I know I probably should.
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