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Old 06-07-06, 12:32 PM
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lockout travel

Does anyone how much the Marzocchi MX Comp travels with it's locked out ? is it full lockout or is there still small travel ???


On the same issue I have a RockShox Reba with lock out and even with the floodgate fully off I still get a fair bit of movement about 1 to 1 1/2 inch - I would prefer almost no travel when it is locked out - but cannot seem to set it up like this - any ideas ? or is that how the fork is.

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On my Marathon, TST is used for the lockout. I don't believe the MX Comp has TST or a lockout....

In any case, it's totally stiff when locked out.
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Originally Posted by Riles
On the same issue I have a RockShox Reba with lock out and even with the floodgate fully off I still get a fair bit of movement about 1 to 1 1/2 inch - I would prefer almost no travel when it is locked out - but cannot seem to set it up like this - any ideas ? or is that how the fork is.

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The floodgate on the Reba controls the level at which the lockout releases so with the lockout on, you should always be getting essentially zero travel (no matter what the floodgate is set at). If you have the threshold backed off (i.e., counterclockwise), it won't require much of an impact or downward pressure to release the lockout so it will probably feel like it isn't locked out. Crank the floodgate clockwise to raise the threshold and there generally won't be any travel as it will take a lot more force to release the lockout.
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I find these topics kinda funny. When lockouts didn't exist and we all ran 63mm forks for XC that were sprung so dang heavy to be efficient, nobody cared if it moved a bit while climbing. They really did suck on the rest of the race course though. Now we have these pesky lockouts to mess things up.

Lockout with a floodgate (when locked) is like having a SUPER-OVERSPRUNG 1" (approx.) travel fork. When mine is locked out and I stand up and put all of my weight on it and really 'HONK' on the pedals, it compresses a little less than an inch.

It seems wrong, I know. The dang thing has a "lockout" switch not a "firm up" switch. When you think about it though...isn't this better than being completely rigid. Heck, it's less than an inch. Is that really going to absorb any of my energy on climbs? Absolutely not. It's like a dream come true. A fork that I can turn from blubbery squishy for the flats/downhills that can turn into a super-rigid climber with about 20mm of travel to absorb the uglies while I climb.

No sir, I like it like it is. If you screw up and hit a huge bump, you won't damage your damper b/c it "blows by" the floodgate. No expensive mistakes, better performance.

Actually, I bet if you paired a rigid bike with a locked out floodgate and climbed a couple of gnarly hills, you'd prefer the 20mm of ultra-firm travel to the completely rigid bike.

Half the time, I dont even lock out my fork on a climb b/c I just roll right through that rock or root instead of taking the extra time/energy to go around it or finesse/hop over it.
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are you actaully refering to the MX Comp with ETA? If so then it's about 30mm of travel with ETA on.
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I was talking 'bout the Rockshox Motion Control damper.
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I was actually asking abou the original poster who was asking about the MX Comp fork. I don't remember the MX Comp having a lockout (I could be completely wrong), It does however have the option of ETA, which just reduces the travel to 30mm.
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Originally Posted by chelboed
I was talking 'bout the Rockshox Motion Control damper.
Yeah motion control is pretty good, I like that it doesn't absorb energy while pedaling but it still leaves you with suspension and even in the case you go hucking with the fork locked out it will still compress fully when hit hard, in that sense I love the lockout on my Tora.

What I don't like about the lockout is that for trials, complete lockout works a lot better than partial lockout, when doing trial moves like sidehops and whatnot, the very little give of the fork does absorb energy from you which sucks but I guess you can't have your cake and eat it too and I much prefer have a lockout like RockShox's MC and not a lockout like Manitou's on the Axels which makes the fork ride like a rigid.
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Hey that's right. There's no lockout on that fork, just a travel adjustment. Good call.
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EDIT:
My lock out manual said doN"T ride rough with the shock locked...

oh and im running 63mm travel LOL!!! and its a new bike.

Being 100+kg i had to pump the shock to ~150psi but i think its a bit less cause when i release the pump a bita air comes out.. so like 120-140...psi...

just FYI

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Man, bikeforums is glitched, I can't see any new posts!
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yeah somthing is up search died on me
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search is dead for everyone...server problems, search and who is online features are both gone. There is a thread about it in the news and announcements forum
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