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Old 06-08-06, 07:40 PM
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Dorado vs Travis

I need a new freeride and down hill fork. There are so many options right now(888,66,travis,shiver,dorado,40rc2,monster t) i cant possibly decide. Anyways, I was wondering about the Dorado/travis. I keep hearing that the dorados were the best dh fork ever made etc... Manitou also says that the travis is even better than the dorado.
What I want to know, is the travis actualy better than the dorado? If so , than I can take the dorado off the list of possible forks.
I want a fork that doesn't require a ton of mantainece. I have heard that the doradoe require a ton of work for them to stay working right. If this is true, than I don't want them (I want a set it and leave it fork).

If anyone has expeirience with either, or knows the answer to a question, please respond. I guess I will take suggestions on other forks too.
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Old 06-08-06, 08:45 PM
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I'd have to say 888.
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Shiver DC if you want something inverted like the Dorado, without the matenance.

How are Risse forks?
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Risse=Sure Fire way to die in a bike crash. There is also Avalanche.
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Really? Why is that, I've never heard much about them but always thought they were really good forks.

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As far as forks for me, I want something common, that any shop will be able to work on and carry parts. I have never aactualy seen a risse fork in real life, or an avalanche.

Why are risse forks so bad though
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The first version was good, the 2nd version has a TON of issues, there is a history of risse' breaking fairly easily.

With an Avalanche, any motorcycle shop can work on it. For common I'd do an 888 or a Boxxer Team.
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Originally Posted by nmn25
As far as forks for me, I want something common, that any shop will be able to work on and carry parts. I have never aactualy seen a risse fork in real life, or an avalanche.

Why are risse forks so bad though
Once you get to high-end dual-crown forks, most LBSs don't touch 'em anyway - -they just send them in to the mfr's service center (and frankly, that's probably a good thing). They won't have the parts or the skills.

Dorados were the schizz a couple or three years ago; they were on everything. I thought of them mostly as a race fork, but Dangerous Dan and the Flowriders were huckin' with 'em on their Yetis. That seemed a bit much with CF uppers, but they seemed to hold up. I think Manitou made the Travis line to lower production costs with a more 'normal' right-side-up fork... especially since the competition (Boxxer, 888, Fox 40) were all conventional, right-side-up designs.

I have no personal experience with Risse (or Stratos), although I've seen a few over the years. People seem to either love 'em or hate 'em. I like the fact that they are small American companies that use standard machine parts where possible and make their products totally user-servicable and fully rebuildable.

If your emphasis is toward racing, I'd chose the Dorado. If you can think abot a Fox, I'd go the 40. You can't argue with 40mm stanchions.
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I know that the 40rc2 would be the best, and if I get any fork I wanted w/o money being an issue, I would grab it. However, its 1500+ price is very steep. I really don't want to go over 1000, unless there is a SIGNIFICANT reason (wieght+performance+durability). Right now i would really like to know if the dorado requires a lot of maintenece (I don't want to deal with a finiky fork). Also, I would get the 05 version, so if the travis is any better than the 05 dorado, then I can take the dorado off my list. Just trying to get a small list, so once I get the money, all my reasearch is done and I can get the fork asap.
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Originally Posted by nmn25
I know that the 40rc2 would be the best, and if I get any fork I wanted w/o money being an issue, I would grab it. However, its 1500+ price is very steep. I really don't want to go over 1000, unless there is a SIGNIFICANT reason (wieght+performance+durability). Right now i would really like to know if the dorado requires a lot of maintenece (I don't want to deal with a finiky fork). Also, I would get the 05 version, so if the travis is any better than the 05 dorado, then I can take the dorado off my list. Just trying to get a small list, so once I get the money, all my reasearch is done and I can get the fork asap.
Thanks for all the help, previous and future!
The Durado is and was the best downhill fork made BUT it took a lot of time to get them dialed in. If you have the time, patiants, knowlage and skill to do it you will be very happy with the fork. Mind you I said downhill fork. If you will be racing then you can not go wrong with it but you will need to dial it in for each individual course. It can be a pain for most people. If you will be running the same course all the time and seldomly going to other races then it would work well there.

As mentioned earlier, it is a Dh specific fork but it can be usd to huck with as well.

A very good all around fork that does not get much attention but soakes up everything very well and will not break the bank is the Stratos S8 Ultra. it will run you 1000$ USD and is very easy to adjust to the different terrains you may encounter.

A few years ago they were having leakage problems with them so they got very bad reviews but that has been fixed and can handle A LOT of abuse. I used mine for 4 years when I was racing and I also hit some huge drops as well and it stood up to all the punishment I could throw at it.
I had even slammed it aginst a few bolders now and then and still no damage or decrease in performance. The one issue you might have with it, if you wreck hard and the fork gets twisted it will slightly spin in the clamps. No problem though, just loosen the bolts in the clamp and straighten it. Takes no more then 2min.

I have not ridden with a TRAVIS yet and no one I ride with has one either so I can not give addvice on how well it will work for you.

I would look at it like this;
(In the order I would put them)
Stricly racing - Durado, 40 RC, S8 Ultra, 888, Boxer
All around performance - 40 RC, S8, 888, Boxer, Durado

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My friend is offereing me a real good deal on a 2003 shiver. $300. The only thing stopping me from grabbing this is that the shiver wieghs something like 11lbs!

Coming from a jr. t and pike, would this make my front end dive on drops/jumps, and make it harder to whellie/manual?

Does anyone have expeirience with shivers or really heavy forks? Should I pass this up for a lighter fork or should I snatch this up?
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