enigma102

Ok guys so i was just riding over some rocks today when all of a sudden my rear deraleur just snapped off I was like wtf, o well time for some aftermarket stuff.

So basically i am torn between making it a 8 speed or single speed. Sadly i do not know how to go about doing either. I know im gonna get a bashguard and a chain guide.


I neeeed opinions and help! if anyone can provide links or instruction that would be great.

FreeRidin'

You derailleur is porbaly still usable, maybe a little bent but just bend er back. You probally only need to buy a new derailleur hanger for like $10.

And I'm guessing its a 9 speed in back...why would you want to get a 8 speed?

enigma102

Its a 8 speed in back and i wans thinking of jsut replacing it but then im probably just going to have to keep replacing it the way i ride. I am seriously considering single speed. Can anyone link me some cheap single speed parts?
I wanna get
https://www.jensonusa.com/store/produ...rsion+Kit.aspx

and then i dont know about the front gear, or the chain. Thats what i need help with. And i am also looking at a chainguide and bash guard.

FreeRidin'

Yeah single speeds are a lot of fun, dont have to worry about messing anything up.

My "beater bike" is a SS and I am using what you posted above and this
https://www.jensonusa.com/store/produ...Tensioner.aspx
You will also have to buy this becasue your HR has vertical drops.

If your really cheap you can also rig up your derailleur to work as a chain tension so you can run SS, but regardless if your derailleur has snapped you will need to replace it.

enigma102

cool can you reccomend a front sprocket, and will i need to do anything special like using spacers on the front. Can i still use a bashguard?

O and where can i get some directions for how to convert?
Thanks for your help!

FreeRidin'

Umm you can use the middle chainring you have now, probally like a 32 tooth witch is a little small get maybe like a 36 or 38, but thats not a big deal. And yes you can still use a bash guard, I recomend the E-13 one.

As for converting you will need a chain whip and a casset tool, just bring you back wheel to a shop and they should do it for free.

enigma102

aren the e13 ones plastic? Are they so strong they are better than the metal ones?

Ya i was thinking about haveing the shop install whatever i cant, well i suppose i would have to lol o and im not gonna use the middle chainring i want one made for single speeds to keep the chain on better

FreeRidin'

^^^ ya the e13 ones a plastic but they are the stronest ones out there!!!

And yea a SS chainring is really no different from what you have, would be a big waist of money!

enigma102

o wow thats really suprising that plastic is the strongest. O ok i only wanted the ss chainring becasue of the taller teeth but if you say its a waist of money i belive you lol. Ya the main reason for all of this is because i jump, alot. And i crash, alot. So say i end up totally despising ss, can i swith back to gears without a lot of problems? o and i want to use the cheapest possible components that are still reliable, the e13 guards are a little pricey compared to what ive seen. plus i like the ones with the mean looking teeth haha, even though i never go over logs so it wouldnt matter....

o what about this kit, https://www.performancebike.com/shop/...tegory_ID=5132

Unless its terrible quality it looks good to me, nice and cheap lol

FreeRidin'

^^^ Ya the e13 is pricey but worth it, dont get one with the teeth those are soooo stupid. The bashguard is probally a pos and you wount really be able to ride with long pants, the teeth we probally catch em.

As for the kit...that is mighty cheap, the chain tensioner on it is spring loaded and is ment for XCish types of riding. The one is posted is MUCH stronger!

enigma102

haha ok well ill go with the chain tentioner listed and the first kit, then im just getting a cheap bash guard. I really want to only spend around 50 bucks. which would happen if it wasnt for the fact that somehow i feel as through i will die without a chainguard haha


oooo wait a sec how about this kit https://www.jensonusa.com/store/produ...speed+Kit.aspx

the one with the guide spacers

the bash guard can wait i suppose

FreeRidin'

^^^dosent really matter I saw that one too. That one allows for more chainline options but only comes with 1 cog, it really dosent matter!!!

enigma102

lol ok well i am going with the original kit (cheaper) and the tensioner you suggested. From your experience do i need a bashguard right away? i could always keep the largest sprocket on as a temp one then switch to a real one later. Then if i find i really like ss im gonna get a ss specific gear. Sound good?

FreeRidin'

^^^wonderful

enigma102

haha ok well thank you for putting up with me and for all the help =)
Knowing me ill be back asking how to put it all on lol

enigma102

Ok so my dad is like pissed that i broke the bike that he bought for me that isnt even a year old. He keeps telling me that mountain bikes like mine are only meant for hardpacked dirt trails with the occasional rock or rut. I think he is insane, who is right. Please help me out here i think that my bike should be able to go off the occasional jump or small drop off.

FreeRidin'

Well here is are some pictures that should prove him wrong.

Here is a pic of my old hardrock. It has no stock parts on it, but shes a hardrock alright!
https://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g2...00/Bike001.jpg

And here is a pic of me jumping my hardrock
https://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g2...00/roadgap.jpg

enigma102

sweet thats you in that pic? well actaully im pretty sure he just doesnt care anymore, hes just pissed becasue he thought it would last longer. But so did i. Lol i don t even jump that much but i am starting to so thats why i want ss. I have 2 more ?'s How do i space the front sprockets? and can i do it all by myself without any special tools. Im just gonna have the bike shop put on the chain.

Frunkin

what wheelset do you have on that hardrock freeridin?

FreeRidin'

Yeah thats me.

Spacing the front chainrings???? Just take of your granny ring (smallest one) and replace the largest one with the bashguard.

You will also want to have the bike shop but on the single speed converter.

The wheels are off of a 05 Demo 8, they are mavic 325s and Specialized Stout hubs.
I have replaced the rear rim with a doubletrack, and have replaced the frame.

enigma102

o crap lol they were the ones who were like, ya its going to cost you $200 to have us convert it. Well like i said before im using my big gear as a bash guard, i thought id have to put something in place of the granny gear.

Frunkin

so basically these?

https://www.jensonusa.com/store/produ...25+Wheels.aspx

FreeRidin'

^^^ Umm ya same rims, I don't really recomend those rims though.

enigma102

so...do i have to use something to space it, or what. I assume i do, but how. And do i need a special tool to put on the converter or is it something really technical that the average person cant do

FreeRidin'

No you do not need to space your chainring. You space you SS cog to get the correct chainline. Putting on the SS converter is really easy but you will need to buy 2 tools that will run you about $30.