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Old 10-26-06, 09:15 AM
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a few "after-upgrade" pics

nothing snazzy at all, but im kicked. the new fork is a rockshox recon. have just had one ride on it yet though. also got xt cranks, and man it is such a difference from my previous stock ones. also had to buy pedals and a headset because my old ones had gone all bust. and switched out from a 100 mm stem to 90 mm. i would like to go still shorter, but i cannot find an 80 mm stem anywhere. anyway, some pics:













and of course, my beatnik frog with his beatnik ride:

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Old 10-26-06, 09:24 AM
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That little bike is cool - looks too big for the frog, though. Perhaps this would be a more suitable ride for him:

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Old 10-26-06, 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by ankush
also got xt cranks, and man it is such a difference from my previous stock ones.
How so?
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Old 10-26-06, 09:39 AM
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gastro, that is a very neat model. the size of that derailleur is scary though!

mcoine, well im really not sure. i rode today after three weeks and it felt like i was going through stuff faster and with more power. my pedalling cirlces felt "smooth". maybe i was just excited to ride. or that the cranks etc were newly greased. or whatever. those cranks are the only items on my bike that i bought 'for no apparent reason'. well, except greed. maybe i am trying to justify the buy. i did get them comparatively cheap though. an equivalent of 160 us dollars!!
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Old 10-26-06, 09:57 AM
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Make sure you put that quick release back properly! Scary.
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Old 10-26-06, 10:52 AM
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Looks great, but man do those pedals look out of place on that bike.
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biker, whats wrong with the skewers? i dont see nothing? man, what the heck am i doing wrong again?

lowcel, thanks man. but man, i dont see myself using clipless pedals anytime in the future! the idea freaks me out. platforms are good. perhaps less power transfer etc etc, but i dont race so can rest as many times as i want during those long rides
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Old 10-26-06, 11:55 AM
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Surely it should be pointing up?
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Old 10-26-06, 12:20 PM
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Looks like you use that bike alot, looks awesome.
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Originally Posted by biker_lad
Surely it should be pointing up?
Why would that matter?

It would make wheel removal easier if the qr lever was on the non-drive side, however.
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Originally Posted by ankush
lowcel, thanks man. but man, i dont see myself using clipless pedals anytime in the future! the idea freaks me out. platforms are good. perhaps less power transfer etc etc, but i dont race so can rest as many times as i want during those long rides
It's funny, the idea of platforms scares me. I can't stand the idea of being able to come off of the pedals so easily. However, that is part of what makes this such a great sport. People actually ride what they want, not what others prefer. It is a great looking bike and I'm sure it's a blast to ride.

As far as the quick releases go I don't see a "problem" with them. Most just prefer to keep them on the non-drive side. I also try to avoid pointing them forward just because something could possibly catch it and release it without me knowing. Most likely that won't happen though.
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Old 10-26-06, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by mx_599
as it is in the picture it is more susceptible to opening from hitting against something
In theory, perhaps - in practice however, the probability of that happening is extremely low.
Can you think of an example of "something" that may hit or snag the lever that would open a properly adjusted QR mechanism without you knowing it? I can't.

That bit of "wisdom" makes good filler for articles printed in shiny magazines and entitled "101 Tips," but that's about it IMO.
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Old 10-26-06, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by mx_599
vine...but you should hopefully know when it nearly takes out your front.


it makes sense to make things "stream-lined" to the direction which they move. it does not make sense to orient objects that would tend to catch.

i know you already know this so i don't even know why i am bothering
The lever opens perpendicular to the normal direction of travel of the bike. So unless you snag a small thin vine at the very tip of the lever (any further back toward the axle would not provide enough leverage to open it) and then did a big side hop in the other direction, the lever will not open.

That's what "makes sense" to me.

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Old 10-26-06, 01:15 PM
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I was just looking over my old mountain biking book from about 1987, and they say that mountain bikes have bolt on wheels because a quick release may catch on something and open up.. To this day, I have never heard of this happening. For aesthetic reasons, I would have the lever pointing in a more streamlined way though.
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Originally Posted by mx_599
people on this forum seem to like jumping down peoples throats. i don't recall it being like that with those same people when i joined.
My intent was not to jump down your throat, Brian.

I too subscribed to the "face it rearward" theory, but changed my opinion after seeing Juli Furtado's bike at Hunter Mountain a couple years after mcoine's book was published - the lever was facing forward. I thought to myself, "now why would a world cup mechanic point that lever in the wrong direction?"

The answer I came up with was, of course, "because there is no wrong direction."
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i once had my shorts catch the quick release on my seatpost. not realizing it had opened, i sat down. much to my surprise, the seat dropped to the bike leading to a quick shot to the gooch. not really relevant in this discussion, but funny all the same.
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Originally Posted by gastro
It would make wheel removal easier if the qr lever was on the non-drive side, however.
Not exactly. It sure hurts when you try to open it and your rotor is still hot. Makes a nice burn mark.
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Old 10-26-06, 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by MattP.
Not exactly. It sure hurts when you try to open it and your rotor is still hot. Makes a nice burn mark.
Wow, are you serious? The lever actually gets hot enough to burn you?

(I don't know, I use bolt-on axles with my disc equipped bikes)
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Disc brake rotors get hot enough to scorch skin... one of the more recent bike rags showed someone with a literal brand from their Avids. I'm pretty sure that the QR lever would get warm, just due to metal to metal contact with the rotor.

QR issues have been discussed on a couple other threads... if people are concerned with branches snagging their QRs, they can replace the skewers with Nashbar skewers that use a hex wrench (or other locking skewers mentioned in many other posts.)
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I have taken my wheels off many times and my quick release is on the rotor side. I burnt myself once. After that you learn to pay a little more attention and it should never happen again. I have never noticed my quick releases being the least warm.

As for the bolt ons be careful. It is very easy to over tighten them and strip out the nut side of the bolt-on skewers. Doing this in the middle of nowhere would suck!!!

Now back to the original topic.......AWESOME BIKE!!!!!!!!!!
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i love that paint man its amazing.
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Liken the Rock Shox.
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[QUOTE=gastro]My intent was not to jump down your throat, Brian.

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Come on, you know you're just hard to get along with. All bow to the net riding king...........GASTRO!
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gee wow. i never thought my skewers would ever be so hotly debated.

though i guess i could imagine something snagging them and opening them on the trail, esp in the position they are right now. i mean stranger things have happened on bike rides. for example the conceiving of chuck norris and his baby sister medusa

seriously though, i will go now and make those skewers face rearward. there is no harm in it. thanks man.
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Originally Posted by mtnbiker66
Come on, you know you're just hard to get along with. All bow to the net riding king...........GASTRO!
Go wipe your butt with a hot rotor.
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