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Old 12-01-06, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by born2bahick
Ok, Stay with me now! The on the fly pad adjustment, changes the relationship between the lever and the piston in the master cylinder. You can "set" the point of contact. In other words, you can decide how far in you want to pull the lever before the pads make contact to the rotor. maybe you like instant braking effect the second you start to pull on the lever, or maybe you like your lever to almost pull back to the bar before any braking effect occurs. this way you can always have the lever feathered in with one finger. now on the five's or seven's you can change the lever position in or out by using a 2 mm allen key. Yes the pads adjust atomatically for wear.
Bingo! BTW, I have Juicy 5's. Came with my bike. Whether it's worth it to the OP, only he can answer that. Should be a bit easier to decide now that he's gotten a good description of how it works and the purpose is serves.
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Old 12-02-06, 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by born2bahick
Ok, Stay with me now! The on the fly pad adjustment, changes the relationship between the lever and the piston in the master cylinder. You can "set" the point of contact. In other words, you can decide how far in you want to pull the lever before the pads make contact to the rotor. maybe you like instant braking effect the second you start to pull on the lever, or maybe you like your lever to almost pull back to the bar before any braking effect occurs. this way you can always have the lever feathered in with one finger. now on the five's or seven's you can change the lever position in or out by using a 2 mm allen key. Yes the pads adjust atomatically for wear. As for why someone would want to do that on the trail, I'm sure there would be a use for it to someone, But I'm drawing a blank as to my use for it. It's nice bling factor, And the brakes themselves are worth way more than the price you talking about. It's the price difference between the Fives and the seven's that I was addressing, as not being worth it to me! I love the brakes, just wouldn't pay extra for the Bling factor again. Notwithstanding manufacturers claims, It wouldn't surprise me to see the five's slightly lighter on the scale than the seven's because of this adjustment. OK Ive rambled on long enough. Hope this helps.
Thank you. That was very helpfull. I guess I have the same thing on my XTR V brakes and once I set the lever position years ago, I have never moved it since. I am aware of the price and was also referring to the difference in price. Think I may have to be looking for some Juicy Fives instead and save $40 or so.

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Old 12-03-06, 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by mikejo
Thank you. That was very helpfull. I guess I have the same thing on my XTR V brakes and once I set the lever position years ago, I have never moved it since. I am aware of the price and was also referring to the difference in price. Think I may have to be looking for some Juicy Fives instead and save $40 or so.
okay, it's not the same thing as the lever placement adjustment on your V brakes (it moves the lever's "at rest" point closer or further away from the handlebar). the avid juicys have that adjustment as well, but only the 7s have the PCP (pad contact point) adjustment. as born2bahick said, the PCP has threads that, as you turn it one direction or the other, actually moves the master cylinder push rod back and forth in the master cylinder. changing the point at which the pads contact the rotor in the lever stroke in much the same way that a barrel adjuster on a V brake makes your brakes tighter or looser without changing the position of the lever blade itself.

i use the PCP adjustment for changing how my brakes feel in different situations. i also use it when i pull a bone-headed move like ride my brakes the whole way down a descent and the fluid in the caliper expands from the heat. it's nice to be able to dial that knob out to reset my brakes to how they should be. a lot of my customers have had that problem with the juicy 5's, in addition to many others (master cylinders not returning, sticky lever bushings, faulty seals). never once had a problem with the 7's. i honestly don't mind the noise, and i could give a crap what some other weekend warrior thinks about it. i fix other people's minor squeaks and creaks all week long, when it comes time for me to saddle up, i just forget it and enjoy myself.
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Old 12-03-06, 10:27 PM
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adjustment screw on lever

Originally Posted by KayGee
The problem I've had with my Juicy 7s is that when you make the lever more squishy, it's harder to brake with one finger with the front brake because the lever hits my middle finger on the handle, which is annoying. The lever on the left is closer to the handle bard than the lever on the right and I'm not sure why. Does anyone know?
find the little itsy bitsy adjustment screw on your levers (usually the weird screw barrel looking thing) and use an allen wrench (and itsy bitsy one) to push the lever closer or further from the handlbar as you want... oh and maybe loosen your brake lever and push it away from the grips until it reaches your index finger instead of your middle finger. play around with these methods until you can do track stands in your living room with your index finger.
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