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Old 01-04-07, 07:46 PM
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Help Needed from Seasoned MB's

Hello everyone,

My name is Mike and I am apart of a Volunteer Search and Rescue Team in my local city. I have been recently appointed to start a Bike Team for our group and have been working on a questionnaire to have people interested to fill out. I am not an expert when it comes to biking, but I enjoy it a great deal. I was hoping, from those that have been biking for years could help me come up with questions to ask, these would have to do with biking in general as well as anything that will help in our searches.

So feel free to post anything that you might think is relevant, especially questions that would normally be asked of new bikers to advanced bikers.

Thanks for all your help.
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Old 01-04-07, 07:53 PM
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Where's the nearest bar?

Just kidding.


What do you think mtbing is?

That's my question.
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Old 01-04-07, 07:55 PM
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Are they questions that people need to answer for only personal preference, or to join the group?
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Well my biggest issue with trying to create a questionnaire is that my mind is wrapped around the Search and Rescue part of the bike team, as for what questions dealing with biking in general, all I have been able to come up with is,

1) What kind of Bike do you own? I.e. Street or Mountain

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2) During the bike season, how often do you bike on a weekly basis?

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3) What is your knowledge of bike repairs?

None: Poor: Average: Excellent: Advanced:

4) What is your skill level on a bike?

Poor: Average: Excellent: Advanced:


Im sure theres a great deal more that could be asked of someone to help get to know them and their abilities with their bikes, but again, im stuck on the loop of SAR and Medical Information.
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Are they questions that people need to answer for only personal preference, or to join the group?
Mainly personal reference and so I can get to know them more. Instead of us showing up on a sunday, and saying, lets see what you got. I would rather be showing up saying, ok, so you believe you need to improve on this, and this person believes they are experts at that, we'll team you both up together so you can help each other, etc.
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Sounds good.
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Old 01-04-07, 08:00 PM
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How long they've been riding for. How often they ride. Any notable accomplishments in cycling.
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if it's mainly off road search and rescue you may want to ask the type of terrain they usually ride.. or amount of climbing for road cyclist.. this my give you some idea of their abilities without flat out asking if they are any good at riding.
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ripped off an lbs' website:

YOU GET TO A 4-FOOT DROP IN YOUR RIDE DO YOU:

a) What only 4 foot? So?
b) Take a run up and attack
c) Look for a way to ride round it
d) Walk it - but wait for the carnage as others attempt
e) Wonder why they are doing road works this big
f) Turn round as you are obviously now lost and best plan is retreat.
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are these people already involved in search & rescue?
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Originally Posted by SARLogan
Well my biggest issue with trying to create a questionnaire is that my mind is wrapped around the Search and Rescue part of the bike team, as for what questions dealing with biking in general, all I have been able to come up with is,

1) What kind of Bike do you own? I.e. Street or Mountain

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2) During the bike season, how often do you bike on a weekly basis?

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3) What is your knowledge of bike repairs?

None: Poor: Average: Excellent: Advanced:

4) What is your skill level on a bike?

Poor: Average: Excellent: Advanced:


Im sure theres a great deal more that could be asked of someone to help get to know them and their abilities with their bikes, but again, im stuck on the loop of SAR and Medical Information.
If it were me, I'd ask the kind of terrain the riders prefer...road, XC, commuting, etc., estimated annual mileage, and if they own a working bike and have a helmet.

I wouldn't worry about technical skills and skill level...that will come out when you ride with them...

are you planning on forming several groups based on terrain and skill level?...I've always wanted to see roadies and MTB'ers ride together...
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I think I'd break down the skill level question and ask if they are good at climbing vs. technical terrain. I'd think for search and rescue you'd want some powerful climbers so they can haul people out of the woods or to where there is helicopter access.
you might also want good technical riders because when searching you might not stick to the trail, you could end up doing a lot of plowing through the woods.
maybe in addition to "what kind of bike do you own" ask how often you ride (daily, weekly, monthly, random), what kind of riding (roadie, urban assault, dj, xc, freeride, all mtn, track)
perhaps ask what other stuff they do, as someone that does long distance running might have very good bike stamina too.
maybe also expand on the repairs question and add stuff like how quickly they can make such repairs (it's not nascar or anything, but if you're out in the snow and all sweaty there's a big difference between standing still for 4 minutes and standing still for 20 minutes). and how good at them they might be under pressure.
maybe ask for an example of bike repair ingenuity they came up with on a ride when something broke far from home and they didn't have the right tools. that question might not be useful, except for some interesting MacGyver stories
ok im out of ideas
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you also might want to know about what kind of first aide/first responder/survival training they might have. It would also be helpful to know how comfortable they are carrying extra equipment with them (first aide, food and water for someone who is found). That might not be as big of a deal for some bikers, but I know some people that have trouble justifying the weight of a multitool and a water bottle, whereas others are carrrying large camelbaks to begin with and are used to longer more remote rides. Riding with extra weight on your back can really change the dynamics of your ride.
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Old 01-05-07, 03:25 PM
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apart for cycling specific questions that will determine the're skill levels...

what about things like-

what sort of outdoor activities do you like to participate in?
this lets you know if they like to camp, hike, climb... all things which point toward skills which would be useful in a search and rescue team.

do you know CPR or other life saving techniques?
again- useful in a search and rescue situation

do you know how to read a map, work with a compass, and/or navigate without known landmarks?
if the're out looking for someone lost- the'd best not get lost themselves.

do you have any experience with GPS or hand held radios?

do you volunteer anywhere else?
people who volunteer at hospitals or even vet clinics can be instrumental in a life saving situation

do you currently own the proper equipment for this sort of program (helmet, shoes, bike, gloves, correct clothing, protection, etc)
you dont want somebody showing up with a townie and expect you to give them all sorts of free stuff

have you ever worked in a stressful situation before? howand what did you do?

have you ever been a Boy Scout? been to Outward Bound? or the likes?

do you know any basic knots?

do you have any knowledge of local plants or fauna? poisonous snakes/ insects?



oh the list goes on....


i hope these helps. it sounds like a neat cause.
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I would get them out on rides. Take them to a trail and see how they do. Once you're comfortable with their ability to handle a bicycle and deal with terrain form your team. Once you've formed your team train on a variety of trails carrying the equipment that you would normally carry in a SAR operation. Train as if it's the real deal and when that time comes everyone will be prepared to perform at a high level.

Good luck.

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