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Old 01-24-07, 08:25 PM
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wow that's heavy.. seems like the wheels are usually the weak link on the dept store bike.. and any sort of suspension looking parts that may be on it..
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Old 01-24-07, 08:37 PM
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Old 01-24-07, 08:39 PM
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$5 saying the bike's broken in 10 days.
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Originally Posted by alextrox69
I bought this bike for only $200 and its great. its not that light but the quality is amazing...i guess its not a "real" schwinn but a pacific bike. For this price its well worth it. ive been on trails and it was great.
it held up and nothing broke even when i fell and fliped the bike 3 times!!
it came with great instructions on every single screw and part on the bike with photos.


i wanted to know whats the difference between this bike and a $2000 bike?



There is a whole lot of difference that you couldn't possibly understand yet, and may never understand if you don't get into mountain biking like some of us have. That's fine. But, It's like saying "I just bought a dodge neon and it's really fast, it's put together well and is amazing on the road. What is the difference between my car and a new Ferrari/Mercedes or ?"? Obviously, there is a world of difference. You will be able to have some fun on the new bike if you are happy with it. But someday, if you outgrow the dept. store bike, you might be coming back and posting one of the most common thread ever. "what bike should I get for $2000"? Or, you'll just putt around on it and be happy with that.

By no means though, is that bike anything short of being the cheapest possible assembly of crappy parts ever. Keeping in mind that you are talking to a group of people that laugh at the thought of settling on a $200 suspension fork alone, nevermind an entire bike.
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Old 01-24-07, 08:53 PM
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^well said. can't think if a better ending to this thread.
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Originally Posted by Mr. Smashy
$5 saying the bike's broken in 10 days.
lol i had it more then 10 days...i just got back from a fun bike ride in a construction zone nere my home
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Originally Posted by alextrox69
lol i had it more then 10 days...i just got back from a fun bike ride in a construction zone nere my home
So? I still say it will be broken in some form or another in 10 days and am willing to put $5 down as a wager.
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Originally Posted by Mr. Smashy
So? I still say it will be broken in some form or another in 10 days and am willing to put $5 down as a wager.
look i know department store bikes are crap but i dont have the money for expensive bikes....i looked at every bike and drove each and every bike around the store and this one happend to fit me. it works fantastic! i would seriously bet that $5 but i wouldnt want you to lose any money.
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i would much rather spend 200 on a frame, then save money to build up a bike myself, than ride some bike that has suspension which doesn't even have "rebound". i'm sure id be better off with a rigid bike which is light, than a suspension bike that has no suspension and adds weight.

no pics from your first ride? post some pics of you ridin man!
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Originally Posted by alumrock12
i would much rather spend 200 on a frame, then save money to build up a bike myself, than ride some bike that has suspension which doesn't even have "rebound". i'm sure id be better off with a rigid bike which is light, than a suspension bike that has no suspension and adds weight.

no pics from your first ride? post some pics of you ridin man!
yea ill post some pics of the trail and my bike when i go. it'll be saterday or sunday if i get to go. i had a blast last time. the pics are from my razr fone.
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hows the suspension and shifting though anyway? do the shocks absorb the bumps nicely? or is the ride still bumpy?
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Old 01-24-07, 09:51 PM
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does it come with quick releases or bolt-on? just wondering
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Originally Posted by alumrock12
hows the suspension and shifting though anyway? do the shocks absorb the bumps nicely? or is the ride still bumpy?
yes its a smooth ride
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does it come with quick releases or bolt-on? just wondering
quick releases
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congrats on your bike but erm....

yep i got the helmet. i will be taking off the reflectors but the kickstand..i dont think it would go down
well, if you are planning to go offroad, please take off the kickstand for your own safety, here is some things you could think off, imagine if you are going downhill on a rocky track and you almost finish it but suddenly you crashed and after you examine your condition, you realise that its your kickstand that made you fall. This is a dangerous thing because sometimes, kickstand will just pops out when the trail is really bumpy and will make you fall, especially if you are cornering. You could lean the bike besides a wall if you want to make it stand or just leave it on the ground.

Hmm and here is some things you should take now a $800 and $1800 bike has A LOT of difference, not to make you feel offended or anything but there is a difference, the difference between it is the components, frame quality and some others which I cant remember now. Your bike uses a RST fork, bikes around 1800 price range, dont use that fork brand. From your pic, your rear derailleur looks like a old Shimano model or maybe a Suntour, $1800 bike uses a Shimano Deore/LX and above or SRAM X.7 and above. Build quality, hmm your bike might be able to stand 3 crashes without having much damage because the frame aluminium could be much thicker then a $1800 bike. $1800 bike also uses saddle from WTB and etc.

Anyway good luck riding, and dont be sad kay, your bike is good since it can tolerate crashes and also because you are a beginner. Keep on riding man!!!

P.S : As you keep riding, when you meet some friends with expensive bike, just ride it for awhile (try not to crash it) and you will feel the difference.
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Originally Posted by wheelhot
congrats on your bike but erm....



well, if you are planning to go offroad, please take off the kickstand for your own safety, here is some things you could think off, imagine if you are going downhill on a rocky track and you almost finish it but suddenly you crashed and after you examine your condition, you realise that its your kickstand that made you fall. This is a dangerous thing because sometimes, kickstand will just pops out when the trail is really bumpy and will make you fall, especially if you are cornering. You could lean the bike besides a wall if you want to make it stand or just leave it on the ground.

Hmm and here is some things you should take now a $800 and $1800 bike has A LOT of difference, not to make you feel offended or anything but there is a difference, the difference between it is the components, frame quality and some others which I cant remember now. Your bike uses a RST fork, bikes around 1800 price range, dont use that fork brand. From your pic, your rear derailleur looks like a old Shimano model or maybe a Suntour, $1800 bike uses a Shimano Deore/LX and above or SRAM X.7 and above. Build quality, hmm your bike might be able to stand 3 crashes without having much damage because the frame aluminium could be much thicker then a $1800 bike. $1800 bike also uses saddle from WTB and etc.

Anyway good luck riding, and dont be sad kay, your bike is good since it can tolerate crashes and also because you are a beginner. Keep on riding man!!!

P.S : As you keep riding, when you meet some friends with expensive bike, just ride it for awhile (try not to crash it) and you will feel the difference.
ok thank you ill take off the kickstand
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One day Bony comes running up to the playground with his shirt hoisted high, pointing at his chest, hollering "I'm a man, I'm a man! I got a hair on my chest, I'm a man!" Porky says "Let's see.". Bony runs over and shows him. Porky looked and said "Well I'll be damned!" then reached up and plucked the hair from Bony's chest and said, "There, you're a boy again, go get me a soda!"

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of the dept store bikes i like the schwinn with the omni fork a little better than the full suspension NEXT for $69. the difference between the schwinn and a $2k will be everything. my bike was $460 and the difference between mine and a $2k bike is still pretty much everything. every little component is better on a $2k bike. the air inside the frame tubes may still be the same though
however i think it might be a good starter bike. if you ride hard you'll be making more repairs and adjustments than on a $2k bike. i had a Roadmaster bike, it was free and brand new, about 45 lbs, i'd adjust the shifting so its flippin perfect and go and hit a speedbump and its all outta whack again. my $450 bike was perfect for about a year, lots of curbs, speedbumps, small jumps, and tons of roots/rocks and it didn't even need adjusting ever. recently i took a jump that was too big and flung the bike over myself and the rear derailler hit a rock, now its shifting funny i might need a new der. or hanger, or maybe just bend it back into place, i haven't tried yet. my point is the more $$ you spend on a mtb the more abuse it can take. my bike would probably outlast your bike under the same stress, but a $2k bike would eat mine for breakfast.
the fact that yours is 44lbs probably means that either the frame or the wheels (or both) are cheap steel. if the wheels are steel they will go out of true a lot faster than aluminum wheels, your bike will wobble and the brakes will rub. if the frame is steel it shouldn't do anything under light riding, but under heavy riding or in a crash it can snap easier than an aluminum/good steel/cromo frame and possibly make jagged sharp parts for you to land on
though when i got into MTB i rode a cheapo bike i got from goodwill for $30. it did great for 275 miles when i decided i was into it enough to upgrade. it still runs great and i keep it as a loaner bike for group rides.
don't upgrade your schwinn. if something breaks replace it with the cheapest possible part from an lbs, or a used part if you can. you'll be wasting money if you get nice wheels/fork/brakes for it. if you decide you're into it enough to spend more money just save up ~$500 and get a nice hardtail or a used FS or something.
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Originally Posted by wheelhot
congrats on your bike but erm....



well, if you are planning to go offroad, please take off the kickstand for your own safety, here is some things you could think off, imagine if you are going downhill on a rocky track and you almost finish it but suddenly you crashed and after you examine your condition, you realise that its your kickstand that made you fall. This is a dangerous thing because sometimes, kickstand will just pops out when the trail is really bumpy and will make you fall, especially if you are cornering. You could lean the bike besides a wall if you want to make it stand or just leave it on the ground.

Hmm and here is some things you should take now a $800 and $1800 bike has A LOT of difference, not to make you feel offended or anything but there is a difference, the difference between it is the components, frame quality and some others which I cant remember now. Your bike uses a RST fork, bikes around 1800 price range, dont use that fork brand. From your pic, your rear derailleur looks like a old Shimano model or maybe a Suntour, $1800 bike uses a Shimano Deore/LX and above or SRAM X.7 and above. Build quality, hmm your bike might be able to stand 3 crashes without having much damage because the frame aluminium could be much thicker then a $1800 bike. $1800 bike also uses saddle from WTB and etc.

Anyway good luck riding, and dont be sad kay, your bike is good since it can tolerate crashes and also because you are a beginner. Keep on riding man!!!

P.S : As you keep riding, when you meet some friends with expensive bike, just ride it for awhile (try not to crash it) and you will feel the difference.

I can't believe I'm saying this but: I'm proud of you, Wheelhot.

But one thing. You forgot to tell him how important the color is...
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I'm continually amazed on threads like this how so many people get so hung up on what the person is riding and not the fact that the person IS riding and having fun. If the OP sticks with it, he will discover all of the other stuff soon enough.
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I can't believe I'm saying this but: I'm proud of you, Wheelhot.

But one thing. You forgot to tell him how important the color is...
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i just noticed it was FS. i thought it was a hardtail. an FS for $200 you should be very careful of. the rear shock can bottom out or break easily and cause wrecks. a hardtail for $200 is considered entry level, so an FS for $200 just means the money spent on parts/quality is spread that much thinner. if it doesn't bottom out or break though, ride on! wear your helmet and maybe bring a first aid kit and tell people where you are going.
if im going on a short easy ride i usually don't tell anyone. but if im going on an aggressive XC ride by myself over an hour's drive away i'll send a text message or voice mail with trail name(s), brief directions, and approximate time of return so if i don't come back they know where to start looking.
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I promised myself I wouldn't get involved with this thread but I don't feel that the OP is getting the answers he needs.

I agree with dminor...props to the OP for riding at all. Stick with it and you'll love it.

The reason you may be getting so much static is because of the lack of quality componentry and construction on the "typical" department store bicycle as compared to a quality, purpose-built bike. That has already been stated, but nobody has explained it to the OP.

Material-High quality aluminum and steel will withstand more fatigue than cheap metal. It is safer on treacherous trails, and will last much longer.

Drivetrain-Shifters, derailleurs, chain, and chainrings will wear out on any bike. High quality shifters will be more precise allowing you fewer missed shifts and easier operation. Cheap derailleurs are prone to wear out sooner causing missed/no shifts. "I don't care about a few missed shifts here and ther" you say. I didn't either until I started riding the trails on a regular basis. I LOVE to clear that gnarly climb or technical section. Nothing is more annoying than mechanical failure being the culprit. Chainrings and cogs will wear out / bend sooner on a cheap rig vs. a quality rig. Crank bolts on department store bikes are prone to falling out due to poor assembly causing pain and frustration. For that matter...every screw, nut, and bolt must be checked before one could have any type of confidence whatsoever.

Suspension-This one is very difficult to explain to a noob. Until you've ridden trails for a while, you will not appreciate good quality suspension components. They are more efficient allowing you to ride longer, farther, with less fatigue. They are much more plush allowing you to enjoy the trail more. They are safer allowing you to fudge a little bit on the line you choose. Good suspension will save your hide. I have mis-judged my line plenty of times throwing my front tire directly into an 8" rock or root. A poorly suspended bike will not "suck up" the big hit. It will either cause the bike to glance off the hit causing a wreck, destroy the front wheel, or stop completely throwing the rider over the bars. There is so much more to be said about setting up quality suspension products "properly"...I just haven't the time.

I have to spend some time with the family now, but maybe I'll revisit this thread soon.

Stick around, dude. There is a wealth of knowledge here on the forums, as well as a good group of guys and gals who love to help out a fellow rider.
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Props to the OP for getting this thread to two pages.

Trolling ain't easy...

edit: make that three
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