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Old 03-20-07, 08:29 PM
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Help me choose between these 3 bikes

Please help me decide which of the following 3 bikes I should purchase:

06 Kona Scrap ($900 CDN, reg $1050) Features I like: front suspension (Marzochi (forget model)) feels perfect, not soft like so many other bikes. Hayes Sole hydrolic brakes w/ 6" rotors. Paint job is sweet cause its got that special paint thats super slippery, mud doesn't stick to it. Beautiful and sturdy frame, should be able to take any of my beatings.

06 Norco Bigfoot ($870, reg $1000) Features: hydrolic disc brakes, sturdy frame, Marzochi (forget model) fork, etc.

05 Specialized Pro ($900, reg 1350) Features: seems to have higher end components such as XT rear derailer, etc. They didn't have this available for me to see today, but hopefully soon I can check it out. I don't know whether this is an actual "jumper" bike like the above two are. How well will it stand up to drops and jumps compared to the Kona? What I like about this bike is that it has fork lockout since I will also be doing lots of commuting.

I do lots of commuting, so dual suspension is out of the question, but when I go offroading I have no fear and will put the bike through some decent punishment (nothing too excessive, but this bike has to last).

Since all 3 bikes are the same price, its hard to decide, which bike would you pick out of those 3?

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Old 03-24-07, 12:35 AM
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does anyone have any advice?

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Old 03-24-07, 04:44 AM
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The 05 specialized pro is not telling us much. What model is it?
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I would go with the Norco Bigfoot.
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Old 03-24-07, 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by mtnbiker66
The 05 specialized pro is not telling us much. What model is it?
oops! I forgot to say its a RockHopper! 05 Sepcialized RockHopper Pro Disc!

sorry my bad!
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Old 03-25-07, 04:30 AM
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I'd go for the kona
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Old 03-25-07, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by BROCK SAMPSON
I'd go for the kona
what are your reasons? Doesn't the RockHopper Pro have higher end components? I kinda like the looks of the Kona best though... such hard decision
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Old 03-25-07, 02:32 PM
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Old 03-25-07, 04:59 PM
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I think I would have to go with the Kona.
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Oh man, I don't know what I would do without you people on this forum! You guys are so incredibly helpful! I mean, without all the points you guys bring up comparing these bikes I don't know how I could ever come to a useful conclusion of which is the best.

So thanks guys!

P.S. For all I know you guys could be Norco/Kona representatives just trying to get me to buy the flipping bike you represent! This forum is the first to come up in google, so you can be sure the major manufacturers know about it. If you guys gave useful information about why the bike you vote for is better than the others besides the fact that your personal pick from that Brand was the best suited to you, then I would feel helped.

I am not an expert on bikes, so I came here for expert advice. I am an "expert", if you will, about alot of computer related hardware and software and I try to help people who don't know something about specific computer hardware I happen to know alot about, and I tell them all the info I know to help them solve problems and make decisions. Thats what help is all about. And thats how this world works: those who have more knowledge than others need to pass that knowledge down to people.

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Those three bikes aren't really comparable as they are all designed for slightly different purposes...the Scrap is a more urban/DJ oriented bike, the Bigfoot is a longer travel FR HT, and the Rockhopper is basically an XC hardtail.

If you're mainly commuting, the Rockhopper would be the best choice but it also depends on what other types of riding you plan on doing.

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thanks never! i appreciate your input. I honestly don't know what are the main differences one needs in a bike to do different styles like FR and XC. I understand that as soon as you are doing jumps such as DJ style, you need much stronger components and frame. Since I will be doing some medium sized jumps (a couple foot drops max) I need a stronger bike, and as I understand all 3 of these are quite strong and can handle jumping. my two styles: commuting and offroading. I have no idea but by offroading i might be doing XC, FR, and DJ. I have no idea how and why a bike can be customized for the different styles. As far as I can see, there are two differences in offroading, either you do jumps or you don't, and if you do you need stronger components than if you don't.

That said, I still don't know how to compare those 3 bikes, but I am definately leaning towards the rockhopper due to its lighter weight and due to its incredible sale price, and my current understanding that all its components are higher end than the other 2 bikes, but no one has confirmed that.

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Old 03-25-07, 08:22 PM
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The main differences will be the geometry and the fork travel. The Rockhopper can handle some jumping and drops but the Bigfoot would feel more comfortable while doing it. The geo specs on the Scrap and Bigfoot look similar...I think the main difference there would be fork travel (but I'm not sure what the Bigfoot has). I know the Sasquatch and Manik have 150ish (higher up the Norco line).

Have you ridden any of them? You should get an idea of what you can do on them based on your positioning on the bike. I'm no where near as comfortable doing some things on my Rockhopper as I am on my other longer travel, more slack bikes. But commuting is a lot more efficient on my Rockhopper than my other bikes.
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K, that helps, never. Out of the 3 bikes the Rockhopper has the most travel (130mm vs 100mm on the other two). I have only sat on all 3 of them and have not yet taken them out for a spin, and I will do that when i have some time, undoubtedly that will allow me to make my final decision.

If you think the Rockhopper can handle some jumping (its not like i'll be jumping for 5 hrs EVERY saturday and sunday for the next 5 yrs... more like jumping for a couple hrs a couple times a month) and if you can tell me whether the Marzochi Drop OFF Comp 130mm fork is better than the Marzocchi Dirt Jam Pro 100mm fork then I think the Rockhopper might be the best... its the lightest bike of the 3.

Oh also, just confirming, but its a fairly noticeable difference in shifting between the Shimano Alivio derailer and the Shimano Deore LX (rear), right? Again, the LX is on the Specialized, the Kona has the Alivio, and the Norco has Shimano Deore. My understanding is: Alivio < Deore < Deore LX. Correct?

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I guess I should have checked before I talked about the Rockhopper...I didn't realize the 05 Pro had 130mm of travel. With the extra 30mm of travel, the geometry of all three bikes should be fairly similar. Does the 06 Bigfoot really only have 100mm...I thought they were usually in the 130 mm range?

That is the right order for the Shimano components.

Given the similarity in price, the Rockhopper is the best deal...as long as it is the most comfortable for you. Take all three for a spin then make your choice.
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Well, if you are doing DJ and commuting, I would actually go with the Kona. My friend has a Kona Scrap, and I have DJed with it many times, and I think it feels the most comfortable in the air out of the three. I'm not too sure about commuting, though. If you do get the Kona, I would recommend changing out the rear derailleur to an LX or XT or Sram X-7.
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I think you should get a road bike if you are going to ride it to work. Call me crazy but road bikes work pretty well on the road.
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Road bikes kind of suck for the offroading part though.
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Originally Posted by never
Road bikes kind of suck for the offroading part though.
good point. maybe I should read the entire OP before posting.
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