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Old 05-01-07, 09:15 AM
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08 Xt

Guess what I just receive a email and I found out shimano just announced 08 XT, it doesn fit my taste though, here's the link : http://bike.shimano.com/publish/cont...ano_deore.html

Shimano XT Shadow looks interesting, I wonder when is the new XTR getting one

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Old 05-01-07, 09:37 AM
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Shimano is almost starting to understand how to make mtn bike hubs.
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Old 05-01-07, 10:48 AM
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There appears to be a misprint in the rear derailluers, according to the pictures the 770 is low normal. according to the text the 771 is low normal.
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It's good to see them updating the brake levers. More adjustment is good. Other than that, there's not much to convince me to update my gear.
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Old 05-01-07, 10:53 AM
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somehow im not into the new XT look. It looks kinda weird. But the new RD, shadow? I wonder how it really performs, and XTR doesn have it yet
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The shadow derailleurs finally catches up to one of SRAMs best feature, the direct cable mounting that eliminates the loop. Presumably they also stiffened the spring so the chain doesn't flop like crazy.

The XT middle ring wisely ditches soft aluminum for hard wearing steel teeth. Angular contact bearings comes to the XT level stuff.

Front derailleurs are still porky due to dual pull.

Overall, a positive outing for Shimano.
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Old 05-01-07, 02:01 PM
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I think the new logos look cheesy - the old, "outlined" XT part of the logo was much cooler, and more quality looking I think.
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I realy like this new group, especially the cranks as I wasn't a big fan of the looks of the 760 cranks. The new brakes look great and their weight is quite low, if they work as well or better than the 760 brakes they will be a sweet setup. The hubs also sound much better, aluminum axles to save weight plus faster engagement will make them a nice budget alternative to the $$$ hubs.
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Originally Posted by willtsmith_nwi
Overall, a positive outing for Shimano.
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I think it's on the ugly side, but the o7 xt shifter pods blow my 04 xtr pods out of the water. If the o8 stuff is at least as good as this year, I'm going full xt on my new bike regardless of the look.
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That XT Shadow looks great.
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That is gorgeous.
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I like the look of the shadow as well. Direct cable routing and the stiffer spring is copied from sram, but I think the new 15 mm narrower design is quite interesting.

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Fuuuugly. But, nice to see they've finally gotten around to "borrowing" some ideas from the SRAM rear mechs.
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I think the new logos look cheesy - the old, "outlined" XT part of the logo was much cooler, and more quality looking I think.
I agree with u on that one. And Shimano have been copying SRAM since they release XTR. Anyway its a postive move though, the Shadow RD. I wonder why they are still keeping the old top normal design?

And erhan, what pic is that? is it the new shadow? how do u get that pic anyway?
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Other than looks all of the new parts appear excellent from a functionality standpoint.

I bet they're keeping High-Normal only for the Shadow XT rd because they secretly want the world to convert to rapid-rise. Note the separate RR and non RR shifters as well.
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Old 05-02-07, 01:32 AM
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And erhan, what pic is that? is it the new shadow? how do u get that pic anyway?
Forget that, I already found it ^^.

Anyway Im starting to like the changes that they made for all their XT Groupset. Better hubs, better shifting and all at a price much cheaper then XTR. Dang the Shadow RD looks compact.

Note : The pic that erhan posted, on the left is the conventional derailleur, right is shadow.
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Looks like they got rid of the parallel link for the v-brakes and I like the servo wave levers for the hydraulics, but I have to wonder how well they work.

The new RD looks good - I wonder if it'll affect tires changes.
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Originally Posted by wheelhot
I agree with you on that one. And Shimano have been copying SRAM since they release XTR. Anyway its a positive move though, the Shadow RD. I wonder why they are still keeping the old top normal design?

And erhan, what pic is that? is it the new shadow? how do you get that pic anyway?
Why keep the top normal? Because a good number of us believe that the only thing that should be "Rapid Rise" is yeast.
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Great! I knew they would do that as I just bought XT r. derailleur and shifters a few months ago.
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Great! I knew they would do that as I just bought XT r. derailleur and shifters a few months ago.
Don't feel bad, I bought my stuff right before they went all Flippy Levers and Rapid Rise. Oh wait, I meant to do that.
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Why keep the top normal? Because a good number of us believe that the only thing that should be "Rapid Rise" is yeast.
Oh you misunderstood me, what I meant is the Shadow RD is a High normal, so why are they still keeping the old high normal design. Sorry about that

And is a single forged ****block caliper stronger then a non single forged caliper? How does this affect the brake performance?
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I think they're hot.

I guess, technically, a ****block caliper would allow braking forces to be transferred most efficiently but I don't see why a non-****block caliper if designed correctly wouldn't work just as well. The main benefit I see is a savings in weight.
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hmm...I wonder how much weight saving are we talking about here comparing to a 2 piece ****block caliper.

Something interesting I realise from the new XT weight, its Dual control + caliper + hose is still heavier then a XT shifter pods, hydro levers, caliper and hose combined. Shimano should really get their dual control lighter then a conventional shifter pods + brake lever

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Originally Posted by wheelhot
Oh you misunderstood me, what I meant is the Shadow RD is a High normal, so why are they still keeping the old high normal design. Sorry about that
Actually I didn't misunderstand you at all. My original comment stands.
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Why keep the top normal? Because a good number of us believe that the only thing that should be "Rapid Rise" is yeast.
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