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Old 06-02-07, 03:09 PM
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Riding up a slope

This is a pretty basic question. If your bike starts slipping as you ride up a steep slope, are you not pedaling hard enough? or are you in too low a gear? I'm finding the top of some climbs to be hard to crack. Does your postion on the bike matter too?

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Old 06-02-07, 03:16 PM
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Try to keep the weight on your rear tire. I try to stay seated, although others, evidently, will argue to stand.

Although, after all is said and done, there will be times where this is unavoidable. Terrain can be too loose, rocky, dry, at times, and the rear wheel has nothing to grip on.

Not entirely sure, but I don't think pedaling 'harder' would help in this scenario, if anything, slowing the rate of ascent may help. Try to find the best, cleanest line as well.
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Old 06-02-07, 03:23 PM
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Salsa rides up hills like a mountain goat... I'll ask him to post later.
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Old 06-02-07, 04:06 PM
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For just about all short steep climbs, you won't want to leave your middle chainring. If you go to the granny, you'll lose traction and momentum during the shift.

If you're sitting doing a wheelie and falling over backwards, you should get up out of the saddle and put enough of your upper body weight on the front wheel so it won't leave the ground. However, this takes away weight from the rear wheel, so you'll need good pedaling technique to keep a constant force on the pedals (you should be riding clipless.) This way, the rear wheel will never lose traction.

Also one small but very significant tip: don't rock the bike side-to-side!

It just takes practice, practice, practice on that smooth pedaling stroke and proper body position.
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Old 06-02-07, 04:47 PM
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sit on the tip of your seat and lean forward so that your ellbows are below your handlbars. put your bike in a easy gear and spin. maybe your nor picking the right line because if you don't pick the right line you will not climb anything.
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Old 06-02-07, 05:38 PM
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you're not supposed to rock the bike back and forth? Damn, this is going to be a tough habit from the road back ground to break.
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Old 06-02-07, 06:13 PM
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Thanks, I find Im loosing traction and I have been doing it in the small gear in the front so that might be part of the problem. Also, maybe my weight isn't in the right spot. Trial and error I guess, which is always extra fun when ur learning to use clipless pedals!
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it depends on your body type...lighter people will need to stay sitting in their seat keeping the weight on the back tire.

Myself having a medium build and wieghing 200 find it easier to stand up and rock the bike side to side, I concentrate on actually gaining speed up a hill rather than just keeping a steady climb. Also, if you take the standing route, you dont want the gears to be TOO easy or you wont be able to stand up and pedal.

Either way...a good rule of thumb is to remember this: Momentum is your friend
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Old 06-02-07, 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by salsa
sit on the tip of your seat and lean forward so that your ellbows are below your handlbars. put your bike in a easy gear and spin. maybe your nor picking the right line because if you don't pick the right line you will not climb anything.

Totally agree with salsa !


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Old 06-02-07, 11:37 PM
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Yep, maybe it's a WV thing.
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Originally Posted by MaxBrokeAway
it depends on your body type...lighter people will need to stay sitting in their seat keeping the weight on the back tire.

Myself having a medium build and wieghing 200 find it easier to stand up and rock the bike side to side, I concentrate on actually gaining speed up a hill rather than just keeping a steady climb. Also, if you take the standing route, you dont want the gears to be TOO easy or you wont be able to stand up and pedal.

Either way...a good rule of thumb is to remember this: Momentum is your friend
Agreed. I would suggest trying to fly up a climb if it is shorter and you know there is a good descent on the other side, but if it is a long climb keep a steady rate and your head up.

You would need to do it a couple of times to find a way that works for you. Like max said, using a larger cog would make you spin too fast for out of saddle stuff, but would make it easier for in saddle.
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Also worth noting... if you are in your granny gear and stand up, it can cause your back tire to spin thus loose traction.. if you find yourself in that position just keep pedaling and you should make it..... and eventually you will learn not to granny it.. or stay seated in a granny gear if you must -but not recommended by me.
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Old 06-03-07, 01:03 AM
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Learning how to spin helped me a lot. I never really knew how until I started riding fixed, now it seems pretty obvious and I do pretty well going up. If it's a long, steep climb I stay seated for the most part and just kind of hunch my back to keep my weight back and concenrate on spinning as smoothly as I can.
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yea...you dont want to resort to the "push push" unless your really just out of energy and very very close to the top. Its important to keep a steady circular motion. And there is really no shame in hopping off your bike and jogging up the hill if your winded.
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In the past I've walked them but now Ive got a good bike and Im trying to take the sport a little bit seriously. I've been out on my own recently trying to get used to the new bike and improve on a few things. I'm just finding at the top of these rougher climbs im loosing traction. Im defo guilty of push push pedaling and probably too low a gear. I've tried to just fly into the climb but I tend to loose it near the top and risk falling over.
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Old 06-03-07, 12:52 PM
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it depends on how steep and loose the ground is...sometimes its safest AND fastest to just hop off the bike and jog
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Originally Posted by Nickds7
Also worth noting... if you are in your granny gear and stand up, it can cause your back tire to spin thus loose traction.. if you find yourself in that position just keep pedaling and you should make it..... and eventually you will learn not to granny it.. or stay seated in a granny gear if you must -but not recommended by me.
Right. You want to keep as even of force on the cranks as possible through the entire rotation, otherwise to maintain the same speed the force between the tire and the ground is constantly changing, and you will be more likely to slip when it's high...ie in the middle of each leg stroke when your whole weight is on the pedal.
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Of course, if you are a "masher" or like standing, if you pull back on the handle bars when you are pushing down on the pedal, you will get more tractive forces from the rear tire. I believe this is typically called rocking the bike. It can be helpful in the right circumstances.
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I find that if I keep my weight right over the center of the bike it helps a lot. Even if I do stand I kind of low crouch yet keep my weight centered over the bottom bracket I can make the climb.
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