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Old 06-30-07, 12:31 PM
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Specialized: Stumpjumper versus FSRxc Comp

I've decided to get a new mountain bike and go for full suspension. I was at my LBS today, a Specialized dealer, and was going to buy a FSRxc Comp for $1,450. However, the owner suggested I also consider a Stumpjumper FSR, which would cost $2,000. He said that the difference in components and weight were worth the difference in price. In particular, he said the suspension system would be better, which is an issue for me because I have some lower back problems. At the same time, I'm only an occasional mountain biker and do most of my riding on my road bike, so I'm not sure I really want to spend that much.

So what do people think? Is the Stumpjumper worth the difference?
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Old 06-30-07, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by jwsel
I've decided to get a new mountain bike and go for full suspension. I was at my LBS today, a Specialized dealer, and was going to buy a FSRxc Comp for $1,450. However, the owner suggested I also consider a Stumpjumper FSR, which would cost $2,000. He said that the difference in components and weight were worth the difference in price. In particular, he said the suspension system would be better, which is an issue for me because I have some lower back problems. At the same time, I'm only an occasional mountain biker and do most of my riding on my road bike, so I'm not sure I really want to spend that much.

So what do people think? Is the Stumpjumper worth the difference?
The shop owner is right. The Stumpy has more travel and better shocks. The Fox shocks are very nice with a really smooth action. They also have an air spring vs a coil in the FSRxc. This makes them more adjustable. It also has a better component mix.

I'd pay the extra $550.
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fwiw, the FSRxc is really heavy. I'm mostly a roadie...and that type of thing bothers me. If it bothers you, get the stumpy. If not, the FSRxc works pretty darn good.
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Old 06-30-07, 02:58 PM
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Thanks for that. I'm pretty small, so weight may be an issue.
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My FSR xc came with a Tora 318 which is air, and the 07 comes with a Recon which is air also. The rear is an X fusion 02rc which has been flawless for me. I will add that you need to keep it lubed with slick honey every 2 or 3 rides. The lock out is superb and bob is minimal. I changed the pedals to Crankbrothers Candies and mine comes in at just under 29 lbs. All this goes for the Comp model. It has been the right bike for me.

The Stumpy is a fine bike too, and you can hardly go wrong with either of them.
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Old 06-30-07, 08:17 PM
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fsrXC vs. Stumpie

In my opinion either way you go Specialized makes a killer bike. The Stumpjumper is the more hardcore of the two bikes and if you are going to do some pretty rough trails and want the bike to handle it all in stride the stumpie is the way to go. Not saying the FSRXC is a bad bike but I just honestly think that the extra money for the Stumpjumper is money well spent. That frame is sexy!
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Old 06-30-07, 11:11 PM
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The geometry is slightly different between the FSR XC and the Stumpjumper. You might try both to see whether you notice the difference, and whether it matters to you.
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Old 06-30-07, 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by JonathanGennick
The geometry is slightly different between the FSR XC and the Stumpjumper. You might try both to see whether you notice the difference, and whether it matters to you.
I may check out some other Specialized dealers in my area. I really like my LBS, but without small frames in stock, I was pretty limited in my ability to compare models. My LBS also runs on a pretty small margin, so they don't want to order a bike without an assurance that I'll be buying it.
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Originally Posted by wvxc
My FSR xc came with a Tora 318 which is air, and the 07 comes with a Recon which is air also. The rear is an X fusion 02rc which has been flawless for me. I will add that you need to keep it lubed with slick honey every 2 or 3 rides. The lock out is superb and bob is minimal. I changed the pedals to Crankbrothers Candies and mine comes in at just under 29 lbs. All this goes for the Comp model. It has been the right bike for me.

The Stumpy is a fine bike too, and you can hardly go wrong with either of them.
Specialized lists the FSRxc as spec'd with "Rock Shox Recon 335, 100mm, fixed coil, lock out, turnkey damper, ext rebound adj, alloy steerer". Looking at the Sram site, they do have a coil spring shock. There's nothing wrong with coil but air is more adjustable, especially if you are at the extremes of the shock design, i.e. light weight or heavy weight.

You are right that it would be hard to go wrong with either bike.
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Old 07-02-07, 05:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Phatman
fwiw, the FSRxc is really heavy. I'm mostly a roadie...and that type of thing bothers me. If it bothers you, get the stumpy. If not, the FSRxc works pretty darn good.
My 2003 Stumpjumper FSR weighs 28 lbs. My friends 2006 $7000.00 carbon fiber version weighs about 24 lbs. I can lose 4 lbs from my gut and save big $'s.

My Ti road bike (cyclocross frame set) weighs about 24 lbs as I like to put on fenders when it rains and I don't go 30+ miles from home with out a rear rack.

IMO, nothing beats the FSR for ride and handling. I wouldn't trade my "old" 2003 for anything else out there, at least not yet.

I got a recon fork for my wife's bike about 6-months ago. I think it's a better value than my Fox 100 RLC assuming it holds up as well.

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Old 07-02-07, 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by cyccommute
Specialized lists the FSRxc as spec'd with "Rock Shox Recon 335, 100mm, fixed coil, lock out, turnkey damper, ext rebound adj, alloy steerer". Looking at the Sram site, they do have a coil spring shock. There's nothing wrong with coil but air is more adjustable, especially if you are at the extremes of the shock design, i.e. light weight or heavy weight.

You are right that it would be hard to go wrong with either bike.
Daggone, I thought the Recon would be air on the 2007 since the Tora was air on the 2006. That's where assumptions get you. Like I said, I have a 2006 comp that I picked up on discount this year, and it has been a good bike. The 2007 comps are spec'ed better than the 2006 pro's were. I do like the idea of having an air sprung Tora over a coil sprung Recon though.
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Okay, a possible slight change in the question. I rode both the Stumpjumper FSR and the FSRxc Comp at a bike shop that is not my regular LBS. Both had the women's model in stock in my size. I preferred the Stumpjumper and, over the weekend, convinced myself that the $500 difference was worth it.

So today, I get a call from the owner of my LBS. The 2007 Stumpjumper FSR is sold out and the 2008 won't be available for two months. However, Specialized does have the 2008 Myka, which is basically the women's FSRxc Comp with some modifications. Here are the specs that I pulled from a .pdf:

FRAME FSR M4 butted frame w/ ORE do wntube, Designs for Women geometry, sealed cartridge bearing pivots, replaceable hanger, bolt on cable guides, two sets of water bottle bosses, 100mm travel
REAR SHOCK X Fusion 0 2RLA, Specialized tuned, rebound adjust w/ L O, 7.0x1.6",4 bearing lower shock mount
FORK RockSho x Tora 30 2 SL "Le Femme", 100mm travel, 32mm Cr-Mos tanchions, alloy steerer, mag lower, coil spring, preload adjust, lock out w / rebound adjust
HEAD SET 1 1/8" threadles s, black s teel cups, loose ball bearings w/ seals
STEM Specialized 3D f orged allo y, 7 degree rise , 31.8mm 4 bolt clamp , S:60mm, M:7 5mm, L:90mm
HANDLEBARS Specialized X C low rise , 31.8mm, butt ed alloy, 620mm wide , 6 degree up , 8 degree backs weep
GRIPS Specialized Myka, dual density
FRONT BRAKE Hayes Stroker Ryde, hydr aulic disc, 160mm r ot or
REAR BRAKE Hayes Stroker Ryde, hydr aulic disc, 140mm r ot or
BRAKE LEVERS Hayes Stroker Ryde
FRONT DERAILLEUR Shimano Deore M530 , 34.9mm clamp
REAR DERAILLEUR Shimano LX M581, SGS cage
SHIFT LEVERS Shimano Deore M530 , 9-speed trigger
CASSETTE Shimano HG-50, 9-speed, 11-34t
CHAIN KMC X9 , 1/2" x 3 / 32" w / reusable Mis sing Link
CRANK SET Shimano M442-8, Octalink Spline , 9-speed, replaceable rings w / alloy outer
CHAINRINGS 22S/ 32S/ 44A 4mm thick outer, 4 bolt 104 /64mm
BOTTOM BRA CKET Shimano BB-ES25, Octalink Spline , cartridge bearing,
68 x 118mm f or 50mm chainline
PEDALS Specializ ed alloy 1pc body and cage , 9/ 16"
RIMS Specialized/ Ale x RHD 26, double w all disc w / eyelets
FRONT HUB Specialized Hi L o disc, 32h, CNC flange and disc mount,
polished r aces, alloy QR
REAR HUB Shimano M-4 75L disc, 32h, 8/ 9-speed cassett e, alloy QR
SPOKES 1.8mm (15g) stainless, black, alloy nipples
FRONT TIRE Specialized The Captain Sport, 26x2. 0", 60TPI, wire bead
REAR TIRE Specialized The Captain Sport, 26x2. 0", 60TPI, wire bead
TUBES Specialized, 1.2mm, schraeder valve
SADDLE Specialized XC Women's, 143mm width
SEAT POST 2 bolt micro adjus t, 606 1 alloy, black, 30 .9 x 3 50mm
SEAT BINDER Alloy collar w / QR, 34.9mm clamp ID
NOTES Protective clear coat, derailleur hanger, reflectors, owners manual

I was told that both of the shocks on this bike are air, not coil. Is that true? Do these components change anyone's assessment? (It also has pretty strange paint. The frame is brown and a yellowish cream color with some red accents.) The Myka will be $1,500, compared to $2,000 for the Stumpjumper FSR.

Right now, I've asked my LBS to see if they can find a Stumpjumper FSR, but they are having trouble. I know I could go buy it at the other shop, but I have a lot of loyalty to the LBS. The owners have taken very good care of me since I bought my road bike and I want to give them my business. Although both shops will offer lifetime service, the LBS is more convenient. Is that misguided loyalty?
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