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Old 07-26-07, 06:45 PM
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tubeless tires

Do any of you guys use tubeless tires on the trails?
If you do is it the same as riding with tubes?
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If I do decide to get tubeless tires how much would it cost me?
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Originally Posted by xcrunner1991
Do any of you guys use tubeless tires on the trails?
If you do is it the same as riding with tubes?
and
If I do decide to get tubeless tires how much would it cost me?
Search. Just kidding, kinda. I don't ride with tubeless as I haven't justified the necessity of it for me.

The reported pros are:
Smoother rolling
Less rolling resistance
Able to run lower tire pressures
Seals itself (for poking type holes, thorns and such)
Will not pinch flat
Lighter overall weight at the wheels

Some reported cons:
You have goo in you tires which can spray you and others while plugging a hole
Messy setup and take off
Expensive to start (over tubes)- to answer the other question: I think Stan's is around $30 for the conversion kit: goo, special valve stems, and rim tape
Initial "set-up" takes a while (overnight?)
Will not seal larger holes
If the tire debeads, then you're SOL.
Tubless specific tires are heavier

I'm sure others will chime in about pros/cons and may have issues with what I posted, but IIRC, that's a majority of them

It's actually a much bigger issue than just adding a tubless tire to your wheel. You must make sure your wheel is a UST wheel with the appropriate valve stem. If not, you can use something like Stan's No Tubes, as mentioned above, to convert your conventional wheels/tires to tubeless. By all reports this works well, saves some weight and allows you to use any tire you want (not just UST specific).

Could someone explain to me how it's less rolling resistance than a tubed tire. This doesn't make sense to me but I see it posted all the time. Is it just eliminating the friction between the tube and the tire? If so, couldn't you get the same effect by putting talc there to reduce friction?

Anyway, people, mainly my LBS wants me to convert. I just don't see a need where I ride and I haven't pinch flatted in ages. (Knocks, repeatedly and hard, on wood )
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I use UST without sealant and I like the fact that I can reduce the air pressure quite a bit when the going gets sloppy.
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I subscribe to the yestubes train of thought... (with a tip o' the hat to Pete for the link)
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Originally Posted by Bike Lover
Could someone explain to me how it's less rolling resistance than a tubed tire. This doesn't make sense to me but I see it posted all the time. Is it just eliminating the friction between the tube and the tire? If so, couldn't you get the same effect by putting talc there to reduce friction? )

I've believe that it's the friction between the tube and tire that causes the tube setup to have more resistance. I had such good luck with tubeless that I don't foresee ever going back.
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