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Old 10-09-07, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete Fagerlin
Maybe you missed the "hollow" qualifier and then this sentence:

"Then they can stop using spoke wheels."
Regardless of adjective (hollow, bladed,cast, forged, carbon, aluminum, magnesium, etc) it is still a spoke wheel. Did you mean they can stop using "wire/nipple/tension" type spoke wheels???
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If fetal alcohol syndrome can take the shape of a useless thread, it would be this one. My god. These ******** arguments make baby Jesus weep.
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Originally Posted by Thrifty1
Still a SPOKE wheel......
When I said spoke wheel, I meant wheels with tensioned spokes and nipples, not cast wheels like Pete posted. Nobody refers to wheels like that as "spoke wheels", even though they have "spokes".
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Originally Posted by mcoine
When I said spoke wheel, I meant wheels with tensioned spokes and nipples, not cast wheels like Pete posted. Nobody refers to wheels like that as "spoke wheels", even though they have "spokes".
Yes they do......

https://hawkcars.co.uk/parts/stratosw...finspokes.html

https://windsor.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehi...QAdIdZ22184882

https://dayton.kijiji.com/c-Cars-vehi...QAdIdZ19564319

https://windsor.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehi...QAdIdZ22184882
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The word spoke is used to describe the look of the wheel, like 6-spoke, or 5-spoke. All those wheels are cast alloy wheels that happen to use "spokes" in their design.
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Originally Posted by Pete Fagerlin
Wow.

You are dumb.

Carry on.
You only ASSUME that you know it ALL!!!!

SPOKE (per Encarta Dictionary, North America)
Supporting rod for wheel rim:
a bar or rod that extends from the hub of a wheel to support or brace the rim
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Originally Posted by mcoine
The word spoke is used to describe the look of the wheel, like 6-spoke, or 5-spoke. All those wheels are cast alloy wheels that happen to use "spokes" in their design.
Spoke (per Encarta Dictionary, North America)
Supporting rod for wheel rim:
a bar or rod that extends from the hub of a wheel to support or brace the rim.
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Originally Posted by Pete Fagerlin
All your base are belong to us!!!



In related news, the Sun rises in the East.

Do you have any more profound revelations to share?
How juvenile.....you obviously attended public schools........
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Originally Posted by Pete Fagerlin
Pray tell Thrifty1, what kind of school produced this wonderful sentence?

"You only ASSUME that you it ALL!!!!"

The fact remains, based upon your posts in this thread, that you are quite dumb, or at the very least, just a bit slow on the uptake.
You impugn to mask your ignorance.
OH NO.....the great KNOW ALL Pete doesn't approve of, like, or agree with my post/s......OH WOE.
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Originally Posted by Pete Fagerlin
All your base are belong to us!!!



In related news, the Sun rises in the East.

Do you have any more profound revelations to share?
I lol'd.

But yes, those car wheels are still spoked wheels, as are Spinergy's, as are wagon wheels like the ones you break in Oregon Trail. A wire spoke and nipple configuration is called a tensioned-spoke (or tension-spoked,) wheel, 'cause its spokes are, like, under tension.

Duuude...
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Originally Posted by DasProfezzional
But yes, those car wheels are still spoked wheels, as are Spinergy's, as are wagon wheels like the ones you break in Oregon Trail....
To a degree. But 'spoked' alloy automotive wheels and Spinergys are moncoque, molded in a spoked pattern. Wagon wheels and antique auto wooden-spoke wheels are true 'spoked' wheels, in that they are mutli-piece with the spokes being individual, functionally-necessary spars.
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Originally Posted by Pete Fagerlin
In related news, the Sun sets in the West.

Thanks for sharing, grom!
Here I am bothering to explain and...well...Pete just cuts to the chase. Well done.
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Originally Posted by MIN
If fetal alcohol syndrome can take the shape of a useless thread, it would be this one. My god. These ******** arguments make baby Jesus weep.
No way man!..... This thread has all kinds of good info.

Note to self .....sun rises in east....sets in west!
How cool is that.....I mean is it like, always? Or just in the summer? ....Tell me more, but not to fast, I'm writing this down.
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Originally Posted by BLIZZ
No way man!..... This thread has all kinds of good info.

Note to self .....sun rises in east....sets in west!
How cool is that.....I mean is it like, always? Or just in the summer? ....Tell me more, but not to fast, I'm writing this down.
If you're lost in the woods,the bark always grows on the outside of the trees.
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Originally Posted by mtnbiker66
If you're lost in the woods,the bark always grows on the outside of the trees.
If you are lost in the trees the moss will always grow on the north side.
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Originally Posted by Pete Fagerlin
False.
mostly on the North side?
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Originally Posted by BenLi
If you are lost in the trees the moss will always grow on the north side.
I've seen lots of trees in oregon and washington covered with moss on all sides.
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Originally Posted by mcoine
I've seen lots of trees in oregon and washington covered with moss on all sides.
true... I really should know that since I live in Washington... errrrr

Saw it on a Survivorman episode (addicted to Discovery channel). But then, I suppose you can't believe everything you hear.
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Originally Posted by BenLi
mostly on the North side?
I thought you were joking..........Wow!
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Originally Posted by dminor
To a degree. But 'spoked' alloy automotive wheels and Spinergys are moncoque, molded in a spoked pattern. Wagon wheels and antique auto wooden-spoke wheels are true 'spoked' wheels, in that they are mutli-piece with the spokes being individual, functionally-necessary spars.
I'd say that the radiating alloy spokes on an automotive wheel are pretty functionally-necessary. The difference between the two (bicycle wheel and wagon/alloy car wheel,) is that one's a tension member and one's a compression member. They're both spokes, no "to a degree" involved.

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In related news, the Sun sets in the West.

Thanks for sharing, grom!
Fall in line, li'l Petey. Don't make me quote our little XTR tiff.
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Originally Posted by DasProfezzional
They're both spokes, no "to a degree" involved.
And I said it the way I did because with a monocoque wheel, the "spoke" is indeed more a function of decoration than necessity; hence 'to a degree.'

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PEEEEEETEY!!! You had to do it...

Originally Posted by DasProfezzional

Originally Posted by Pete Fagerlin
You are indeed extremely clueless.

I have a newer XTR crank than the one pictured. It doesn't have a carbon chainring, or any carbon fiber parts for that matter. Once again you are commenting upon something that you know nothing about.

I'm commenting upon this one. The new one.



New composite chainring design for improved durability
Titanium/Carbon composite chainring
Optimized lightweight design for reduced weight while maintaining rigidity
Hyperdrive technology for best front shifting
New easier installation for left crank with better bearing adjustment
Gearing options: 44-32-22T, 44-32-24T

Dickweed.
For those of you who need a point of reference, this was one of the first of many enduring examples of Pete's lack of knowledge that have come from my bickerings with him.

And what do you mean "bail out?" I don't wanna hurt your feelings baby, but there wasn't much more to discuss.

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Originally Posted by DasProfezzional
PEEEEEETEY!!! You had to do it...



For those of you who need a point of reference, this was one of the first of many enduring examples of Pete's lack of knowledge that have come from my bickerings with him.
New composite chainring design for improved durability
Titanium/Carbon composite chainring
Optimized lightweight design for reduced weight while maintaining rigidity
Hyperdrive technology for best front shifting
New easier installation for left crank with better bearing adjustment
Gearing options: 44-32-22T, 44-32-24T
...Not sure what your problem is with that statement but thats correct. In fact, I think he copied it directly from the shimano 2007/2008 website. details...
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Originally Posted by Maelstrom
...Not sure what your problem is with that statement but thats correct. In fact, I think he copied it directly from the shimano 2007/2008 website. details...
That's the point, hombre. Petey was telling me all about his experiences with the "newest XTR" which, so says he, had no carbon parts whatsoever.

Basically, dude didn't know about new XTR many moons after it came out, and hilarity ensued.

Originally Posted by Pete Fagerlin
grom's confusion doesn't speak well about schools in MD.
Man, let's not go comparing educations. Seriously. I don't like flossing scholarships or big names or programs, especially not in the context of biking, where secondary and further education have relatively little importance, but my tail end's already had seats in some pretty illustrious institutions, and I've probably got another decade of schooling yet ahead of me.

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