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Old 10-23-07, 09:27 PM
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I need new platform pedals...

I currently am running Primo Supertenderizers and they are slippery when wet, a pain to rebuild and overall low quality platform pedals. I know I have praised them in the past, but since rebuilding them I have found adjusting the bearing tension is all but impossible with the pedal off the bike. I am now looking into sealed bearing platform pedals. I am looking at a few and would like to see if anyone here has experience with them or others that perform well and can take abuse (I weigh 290, so I need something strong). I would prefer something with sealed bearing only, no bushings.


Bontrager King Earl - $85 - https://www.bontrager.com/Mountain/Co...dals/21453.php
Dark Cycles Anubis - $170 https://www.ride-this.com/Dark-Cycles...-20260049.html
Syncros Mental(SS)- $160 https://www.ride-this.com/Syncros-Men...-20260046.html

For those who don't know what the Primo pedals look like:


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And drive this:
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And I am not timid about a little extra weight. The Primo pedals weigh 1.75lbs and the bike comes in at 34.5lbs.
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https://cgi.ebay.ca/BRAND-NEW-WELLGO-...QQcmdZViewItem

Exact pedals I'm buying.
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I'd go for something lighter...you can get the Syncros in mag which are half the weight of the chromo or SS. I have a pair of the Block 8 Mags which were relatively cheap ($50-60) and are nice and light.
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Originally Posted by MulletArgyleman
I need the axle to extend to the edge of the pedal. If you look at the Wellgo website the MG-1 pedals are sealed bearing and DU Bushing.
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If you want the best grip, you will get these:


I've run these two seasons and love them. The traction pins are not for unprotected shins.

If weight is truly no object, go with the stainless (as per your example too). DON'T get the chromoly - - the traction pins are cast in, not sharp and not replaceable:



or check out the Sunline V-Ones or V-Twos:



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Originally Posted by dminor
If you want the best grip, you will get these:


I've run these two seasons and love them. The traction pins are not for unprotected shins.

If weight is truly no object, go with the stainless (as per your example too). DON'T get the chromoly - - the traction pins are cast in, not sharp and not replaceable:



or check out the Sunline V-Ones or V-Twos:




The Stainless ones are the same weight as the Primo pedals I have now. Have you serviced the Alloy versions? Some sites list 1 needle bearing, 2 sealed bearings and 1 split bearing... Others list a bushing instead of the split bearing. Does yours have the split bearing or bushing? The cost is almost the same ($149 for alloy and 159 for stainless).
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specialized low pro mags, are going to be my next purchase, although i should probably save for a dj1 with a 20mm axle and a new front wheel, but here are the pedals i want, they aree awesome
https://www.specialized.com/bc/SBCEqP...jsp?spid=25241
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Originally Posted by mtnbk3000
specialized low pro mags, are going to be my next purchase, although i should probably save for a dj1 with a 20mm axle and a new front wheel, but here are the pedals i want, they aree awesome
https://www.specialized.com/bc/SBCEqP...jsp?spid=25241

I did consider these, but according to specialized there is still one bushing.
# 4-bearing design includes 2 cartridge, 1 needle and 1 bushing

And the color does not match my bike at all...

The spindle does not extend to the outside edge of the pedal. This is important to me since I am a larger Clyde...
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Originally Posted by scelia
The Stainless ones are the same weight as the Primo pedals I have now. Have you serviced the Alloy versions? Some sites list 1 needle bearing, 2 sealed bearings and 1 split bearing... Others list a bushing instead of the split bearing. Does yours have the split bearing or bushing? The cost is almost the same ($149 for alloy and 159 for stainless).
I haven't had mine apart yet to service them - - haven't had to. They've run flawlessly for two seasons racing and riding. Bearing count is 4 per pedal: 12mm needle; 20mm "split bearing" (which is actually a DU bushing I believe - - that's the terminology difference you were seeing); two cartridge ball. I'm not sure of the exact layout of the internals; but it's my impression that the needle is near the center of the body, the cartridges are at the outboard ends and I don't know where the split bearing is located.

I think next year I'm going with the mags but I'm a 'DH weight weenie' . Sounds like the stainless is right up your alley.
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Originally Posted by dminor
I haven't had mine apart yet to service them - - haven't had to. They've run flawlessly for two seasons racing and riding. Bearing count is 4 per pedal: 12mm needle; 20mm "split bearing" (which is actually a DU bushing I believe - - that's the terminology difference you were seeing); two cartridge ball. I'm not sure of the exact layout of the internals; but it's my impression that the needle is near the center of the body, the cartridges are at the outboard ends and I don't know where the split bearing is located.

I think next year I'm going with the mags but I'm a 'DH weight weenie' . Sounds like the stainless is right up your alley.
What does your bike weigh in at? Which size pins are you using (3mm or 6mm)? The pins appear to be tungsten carbide or similar material. Do you think it would be hard to tone down the "bite" of the pins with a file or Dremel? The mags are almost 1/2 the weight of the stainless, too bad they are white Only the Stainless and CroMoly ones have 14 pins and the CroMoly pins are lame.
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Bike's a svelt 44#. I'm using the long v-grooved pins. Just run the short ones; they aren't sharp like the long ones. The pins are tough. I haven't broken or ripped out any yet. Two backed out but that was just my carelessness in not periodically checking for tightness.
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Originally Posted by dminor
Bike's a svelt 44#. I'm using the long v-grooved pins. Just run the short ones; they aren't sharp like the long ones. The pins are tough. I haven't broken or ripped out any yet. Two backed out but that was just my carelessness in not periodically checking for tightness.
Do the pedals come with both the long and short pins? I can see why a pound might make a difference. Do you use Loctite or Teflon tape on the pins? Do you have any pics of the short pins?

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Originally Posted by MulletArgyleman
These look good, I think I have seen sites label them as "bmx" pedals. Will they work for all mountain bikes?
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Originally Posted by itsmike
These look good, I think I have seen sites label them as "bmx" pedals. Will they work for all mountain bikes?
They should work fine. They have 9/16" threads. I need something a little more durable.
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Originally Posted by scelia
Do the pedals come with both the long and short pins? I can see why a pound might make a difference. Do you use Loctite or Teflon tape on the pins? Do you have any pics of the short pins?

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They come with both sets of pins; mine had the long ones installed and the short ones in a bag. Use blue (standard) loctite; the threads aren't pre-coated. Sorry, no picts. It's late.
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Originally Posted by itsmike
These look good, I think I have seen sites label them as "bmx" pedals. Will they work for all mountain bikes?
They are advertised here as mountain pedals: https://www.universalcycles.com/shopp...&category=1674
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Originally Posted by dminor
They come with both sets of pins; mine had the long ones installed and the short ones in a bag. Use blue (standard) loctite; the threads aren't pre-coated. Sorry, no picts. It's late.
Thanks. I can wait for pics another day or just see them when I get the pedals. I am leaning very heavily to the Mental Stainless. How dangerous are the short pins?
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If you have the available funds I would recommend the Syncros SS pedals pictured below (or above depending on how you view the threads). I bought them when they first came out a few years ago and they have been beaten, battered, slammed and dunked and smashed. There are a few scratches, I have replaced some of the pins but the pedal as a whole is in great shape. I liked these pedals so much I take the time to transfer them from bike to bike depending on where I am riding.

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If you have the available funds I would recommend the Syncros SS pedals pictured below (or above depending on how you view the threads). I bought them when they first came out a few years ago and they have been beaten, battered, slammed and dunked and smashed. There are a few scratches, I have replaced some of the pins but the pedal as a whole is in great shape. I liked these pedals so much I take the time to transfer them from bike to bike depending on where I am riding.

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Does anyone ride these without shin guards? How mean are the short pins? How well would they work without pins? I want to make sure these are the right pedals before I buy them as they are much more expensive than the cheap Primo pedals I am using now.

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Originally Posted by scelia
Does anyone ride these without shin guards? How mean are the short pins? How well would they work without pins? I want to make sure these are the right pedals before I buy them as they are much more expensive than the cheap Primo pedals I am using now.

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I always ride with out shin guards unless I am racing or in very rocky terrain.

Short or long does not matter, they hurt like hell if your pedal catches yer shin or calf (or if you take a tumble and the pedals happen to clip yer forearms and back as you go down ) all though the short ones wont tear you up as much.

I have never tried them with out the pins so I could not say. From the way the pedal in designed i would guess you would be slipping off a lot especially if the pedals get wet.

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When I ran platforms, I ran the Shimano DX's. Stick in the long pins, and they are awesome, super grippy and pretty light (claimed 492g for the pair)

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another vote for syncros mental pedals. i have both the ss and magnesium pairs. dminor is accurate on internal description. really no need to take apart yet either. i have used the grease ports though. you can change how freely it rotates to a degree with amount of grease.
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When I ran platforms, I ran the Shimano DX's. Stick in the long pins, and they are awesome, super grippy and pretty light (claimed 492g for the pair)

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I appreciate you contribution, but the axle does not extend to the edge of the pedal. These also do not have cartridge bearings, but they have a "CrMo spindle with a sealed, ball-bearing design".
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Originally Posted by mx_599
another vote for syncros mental pedals. i have both the ss and magnesium pairs. dminor is accurate on internal description. really no need to take apart yet either. i have used the grease ports though. you can change how freely it rotates to a degree with amount of grease.
It seems almost unanimous in support of the Syncros Mental Stainless Steel pedals with replaceable pins. I just need to convince the wife that I need these more than anything else.
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