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Old 10-29-07, 05:31 PM
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help choosing bike

I am looking for a full-suspension bike that can handle trail riding and some drops up to say 5 feet. It's gunna have to be very close to 1000$. I think im looking for a All-mountain bike but not really sure. Just looking for a bike that goes fairly fast downhill, easy (as it could be) to climb some hills and that can also go over stumps and rocks etc fairly easy.

thanks for any help you can give
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Old 10-29-07, 05:37 PM
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yo some of y'all people are crazy! 1000 on a bike get the f*ck outta here. I get mad fly wit a G instead of wasting it on a bike
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thanks for you insight. maybe ill get "mad fly wit a G insted". I still like the bike idea more though, can anybody give me some help on choosing one? thanks
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thanks for you insight. maybe ill get "mad fly wit a G insted". I still like the bike idea more though, can anybody give me some help on choosing one? thanks
You can get a decent hardtail for that price. Check out all the major brands. Then ride them. Then buy one.
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Old 10-29-07, 06:05 PM
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so there is no good full suspension's that i could get for that price?
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Old 10-29-07, 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by riku24 View Post
so there is no good full suspension's that i could get for that price?
Well, I wouldn't. The hardtails around that price are good.

But if you want to, check out some motobecanes for FS bikes around 1000.
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Old 10-29-07, 06:11 PM
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I have been eyeing the Specialized FSR Comp (hope I got that name right). I think it is 1500 new but used or left over it should be a little closer to your price range.
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Old 10-29-07, 06:20 PM
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It's all about the components. Familiarize yourself with the heirarchy of drivetrain (shifters, crank, cassette, rear derailleur, front der., chain), fork, shocks, brakes. Get whetever bike has the best components for the price and fits you well. For Shimano, it goes: Acera, Alivio, Deore, LX, XT, XTR (excluding the lowest-end stuff). SRAM uses numbers so it's pretty easy (higher=better).

If you go to a bike shop w/$1000, you might be better off with a really nice hardtail instead of an OK dual-suspension.

Or you can always go the online route(trail): https://www.bikesdirect.com/products/...mcomp_ds08.htm

I bought my inexpensive road bike from them and have been upgrading as I go. The Motobecane looks like a pretty good dual-suspension for the money. For fit, go to some bike shops, try out a few sizes of Trek, Specialized, or whatever they have, then compare their geometries (found on their sites) to that listed for the Motobcane.

Just make sure you can set the bike up. Though all you really need to know how to do--aside from working the quick-release of the wheels--is adjust the headset.
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Old 10-29-07, 06:39 PM
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Or, you can look at KHS. Check out: https://www.khsbicycles.com/03_xc_204_08.htm
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Old 10-29-07, 06:58 PM
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you could try a used trek liquid or something
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Old 10-29-07, 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by riku24 View Post
maybe ill get "mad fly wit a G insted".
good idea
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Old 10-29-07, 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by BenLi View Post
Well, I wouldn't. The hardtails around that price are good.

But if you want to, check out some motobecanes for FS bikes around 1000.
If you pay full retail, your dollar won't go very far.

On the other hand...
https://wheelworld.com/itemdetails.cf...gId=39&id=3861

If you don't live near LA, you're out of luck on that one, but that doesn't mean there aren't any good deals to be had in your area.
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Originally Posted by colombo357 View Post
If you pay full retail, your dollar won't go very far.

On the other hand...
https://wheelworld.com/itemdetails.cf...gId=39&id=3861

If you don't live near LA, you're out of luck on that one, but that doesn't mean there aren't any good deals to be had in your area.
It's called bikesdirect.com
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Old 10-29-07, 09:07 PM
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I'm aware of BD. What's your point?

All I'm saying is that $1K can buy you a very decent bike, even something with 7/8" travel, without having to resort to BD or a hardtail.
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Originally Posted by colombo357 View Post
I'm aware of BD. What's your point?

All I'm saying is that $1K can buy you a very decent bike, even something with 7/8" travel, without having to resort to BD or a hardtail.
So since when is a FS bike with 7/8 travel better than a bike with 4 inch travel or a hardtail? It appears you haven't read the description of what the OP wants to do. He is effectively describing what most people call an "All mountain bike". The one you suggested does meet the criteria. The Giant is however, perfect for someone like you who only look at inches of travel and not at components. Note the Hayes Sole.
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Old 10-29-07, 09:28 PM
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There are 4" bikes available at the same price with better shifters and brakes. I used the Faith to help illustrate the types of deals that were available on full suspension bikes.

Sorry I wasn't more clear. So sorry.
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Old 10-29-07, 09:30 PM
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BTW, the rest of Giant's spec is quite decent for the money with the exception of the Alivio shifters.
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Old 10-29-07, 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by BenLi View Post
So since when is a FS bike with 7/8 travel better than a bike with 4 inch travel or a hardtail? It appears you haven't read the description of what the OP wants to do. He is effectively describing what most people call an "All mountain bike". The one you suggested does meet the criteria. The Giant is however, perfect for someone like you who only look at inches of travel and not at components. Note the Hayes Sole.
One might even hazard to suggest that in some cirumstances a bike with less travel is a better choice for certain situations, even if it doesn't have better brakes than the one that does.


No, no, that's not right. What is right is an all mountain bike with huge amounts of travel. Because by "all mountain" what we really mean, apparently, is "all mountain excluding uphills."

To the OP: Just by looking at specs on bikes with an MSRP of about 1000 dollars it's pretty clear that you sacrificice in other areas when going to full suspesion at that price. There's prbably a reason both Trek and Specialized, for example, start their full suspension bikes at around 1300 dollars. Even then you get at best a deore drivetrain and mediocre brakes. I didn't look at wheels but I doubt they are anything to get excited about either.

On the other hand you can get a Trek 6500 with an all around beter drivetrain and brakes for just under 1000 dollars at list price.

But there are deals out there sometimes. Anyways, my priorities tend to be drivetrain and wheels, yours might be different.
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Old 10-30-07, 11:24 AM
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But there are deals out there sometimes. Anyways, my priorities tend to be drivetrain and wheels, yours might be different.
Exactly. As parts regularly break, many people will suggest getting an upgrade worthy frame to start with and upgrade from there. The KHS I posted has a well known suspension linkage that works well and is an upgrade worthy frame.

The wheels? Eh, when you really want to get into biking, you'll want something new regardless what comes with it. Most of the wheels in this price range will be relatively bullet proof for a year or two. If you're still regularly riding, you'll be itching for something new. The brakes on the KHS are the BB5s, well known good brakes. Deore shifters and front D, not bad, not the best. XT Shadow rear D., pretty nice. I think it's easily as good a deal as anything on BD, plus it has the Horst link rear.

But this is why the OP is posting, to get a few suggestions and make a choice from there. And, according to the KHS web site, it gets 5 chillies on MTBR...
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Old 10-30-07, 12:38 PM
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out of all the bikes i like the KHS the best. A lot of you say that for my price range it may not be worth it to get a full suspension because I'll have to start upgrading right away. right now I have a Raleigh mountain bike from about '03 and it's not really doing what i want it do. Honestly i'd be surprised if the front fork got 10 cm of travel. When ever I even go off of a 1 foot drop i get worried. I just want something to have some fun with and do all the riding i described earlier.

Could you recommend anything better for me at the moment (and in the long run) besides the KHS or any other full suspension bikes. I was thinking i could maybe by a frame and use some of the parts I have from my current bike and start upgrading from there, or just a solid hardtail that would work great.

My problem is I just don't know that much about bikes itself, and don't know what way to go on it.

Any suggestions you have to get me towards a better bike is appreciated
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Originally Posted by riku24 View Post
A lot of you say that for my price range it may not be worth it to get a full suspension because I'll have to start upgrading right away.
Actually only one guy was firmly set on that belief, and he rides a Specialized Hardrock.

The rest of us know that there are decent FS bikes out there for 1K. Maybe not $1K msrp, but $1K when on sale. And you don't need to swap out any parts right away. Replace them as you go. No part lasts forever anyway.

born2bahick's list is pretty good.
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What are the thoughts about buying used bikes? I know of a lot of guys who seem to want the latest and greatest and end up dumping their perfectly good bikes on the used market. I'd suspect there are some okay $800 or so used FS bikes in your area. Budget the remaining $200 to replace worn out stuff. I think $1k would go farther used then it would new, just get something with a quality frame in good condition and have a bike mechanic give it a good look over before you buy.
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What are the thoughts about buying used bikes? I know of a lot of guys who seem to want the latest and greatest and end up dumping their perfectly good bikes on the used market. I'd suspect there are some okay $800 or so used FS bikes in your area. Budget the remaining $200 to replace worn out stuff. I think $1k would go farther used then it would new, just get something with a quality frame in good condition and have a bike mechanic give it a good look over before you buy.

The bike shopes in my area sell bikes that have been traded in as well as left overs. I am hoping to pick one up some time next season. My bike is 15 years old and the used bikes that they have have to be in better shape. I would say that it would be the best way to stretch your dollar(sssss) at the local LBS
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You could always buy a decent frame and fork and then swap things over and replace as they break.

Jamis Dakar XLT - 125mm travel: https://rbikes.com/itemdetails.cfm?ca...iceasc&id=5172

RockShox Tora 302 U-Turn - 85-130mm travel: https://rbikes.com/itemdetails.cfm?ca...ceasc&id=10250

Both items would run you less than $700, giving you $300 for anything else you might need/want to upgrade.

At the worst you will have a quality frame to build around.
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