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Old 11-16-07, 06:29 PM
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Crappy new ride pics.

Freshly built with a new 08 Marzocchi 66 ATA and a parts swap from the Covert/Lyrik combo. Only needed a 27.2mm--->30.0mm seatpost shim.



Missing: Blackspire Stinger chainguide - ISCG version on order; the BB mount version wasn't playing friendly with the 73mm BB/granny ring bolts/ISCG tab combo.



Will try it out first with the Pearl shock, and then the Swinger 4way Air afterwards. I preferred the Swinger on the Covert, but figure to give the Pearl another shot as something other than the backup shock on this one.

No ride time yet. Finished building this morning after working last night, then conked out on the couch afterwards. I've got Sunday-->Thursday coming up free to ride though!
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Looks nice.
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Nice build. I especially like the gold bits, tastefully done with the white. Chainstay wrapped in........hockey tape?
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Originally Posted by kenhill3 View Post
Nice build. I especially like the gold bits, tastefully done with the white. Chainstay wrapped in........hockey tape?
Pedro's rim tape. More spacer under the stem than I'll probably keep, but would rather start long and not cut my steer tube too short right off the bat...

Head angle with fork up = 66. Fork down = 68. Measured with crappy little inclinometer I have. BB height 14.25" with fork at 180mm. Standover way taller than I am used to or prefer, but the TT lenght is perfect, so there ya go.
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Old 11-16-07, 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete Fagerlin View Post
Lyric creaking issues, bushing slop, or just time for something different?

That fork looks sano, you should strip the Transition sticker off too match.
Under the clear coat. Meh. Newer models are apparantly shipping with stickers in packs, off the frame.
Some light work with a scalpel blade took care of the fork stuff, leaving just a few bits. Was leaning towards the brown color, but told Dave at Redstone to surprise me. Fork color was any color I wanted, as long as it was white.

Just new. The Covert/Lyrik combo was great, but I wanted an all arounder with a bit more DH capability. This is only a bit over a pound heavier, but has more tire room, and the slacker angles I wanted. And the fork can still be dropped down 40mm for non-steep stuff.
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Old 11-16-07, 08:12 PM
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o my god. here i am with this *****-ass piece of crap specialized rockhopper XC fsr....thinking of upgrading it....your bike makes me think....wtf is the point of wasting time, money, and effort, on my little dinker of a specialized rockhopper......maybe i should just invest in a new bike all together....ughhhhhhhhh
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nice additions!

what does your bicycle weigh?
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Man, that's a nice bike. What kind of seatpost shock are you running?
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weight? 35# as an estimate.

not a seatpost shock. gravity dropper.
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what is the diff. b/t a seat shock and a gravity dropper?
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Originally Posted by Pete Fagerlin View Post
It's the difference between sugar and spice.
One is functional and the other is a doggy toy.
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Originally Posted by scrublover View Post
What shifters are you running there sir.
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Nice.
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That thing is sweet!

And I see I'm not the only one that doesn't like the new decals on the 2008 marzocchi's.
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Originally Posted by DylanTremblay View Post
That thing is sweet!

And I see I'm not the only one that doesn't like the new decals on the 2008 marzocchi's.
I've seen Marzocchi decals peeling off from day 1. Just remove them when you get the fork and be done with it.
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Originally Posted by chelboed View Post
What shifters are you running there sir.
old sram 9.0 sl for the rear, and a suntour xc pro thumby for the front. been rocking similar setup on all my geared offroad rides for a long time now.
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35 pounds sounds light for the way that bike looks
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Originally Posted by DirtPedalerB View Post
35 pounds sounds light for the way that bike looks

it has a few tricks up its sleeve. a few ti and alu bits in strategic places, lightish wheelset (i'm a small guy who doesn't go super huge) and air rear and front. there are a lot of parts out there that are just stupidly heavy, and not really any more durable just because of extra weight. stuff i've been doing on my rides a long time, with no issues. not stupid light. no drilling or sawing or crap like that.
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maybe that seatpost just makes it look heavy, or the big fork
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Suspension seat post=DO NOT WANT
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Originally Posted by SeventySeven View Post
Suspension seat post=DO NOT WANT
Omfg its been said quite a few times before that its not a suspension post.

I like what youve done with it, looks really nice.
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Originally Posted by SeventySeven View Post
Suspension seat post=DO NOT WANT
wow. pull your head out.
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Originally Posted by DirtPedalerB View Post
maybe that seatpost just makes it look heavy, or the big fork

(long winded, and not just meant for DirtPedalerB)

alu chain ring bolts. (have cased my bashrings into rocks and logs many, many times. only time i've ever broken one was while being a hamfisted mechanic and overtightening)

stock steel granny ring, and crank fixing bolt on the evolve setup replaced with alu versions from deus sets. much lighter than stock - not super light, but still way cheaper.
(you're' gonna' have to get a new ring eventually - when you do, replace with an alu version)

ti shock mount bolts. (big fat m8 bolts - i'd not go with ti if smaller bolts were used.)

regular tubes, dh tire in back, but not up front. (i've only pinched a front tire once that i can recall in 15 years of mtbing)

double butted spokes and alloy nips on the front wheel. medium width/weight rims. (again, i don't go super huge, only weigh about 175# absolute max all loaded up on the bike, and am a pretty smooth line picker. or so i've been told.) alloy nips in back, but with straight gauge spokes. i've broken spokes, but never had a problem running alloy nips.

avid lever clamp bolts = alu. all the caliper and cps bolts swapped to ti stuff. ( i got a buttload of ti bolts several years back at veloswap for so ridiculously cheap it isn't even funny. picked up some alu stuff from a few spots online - don't put them into highly loaded or high torque spots, obviously.) front mech clamp, and shifter clamp bolts are alu. ti headset cap bolt. as thin a bashring, and not larger diamater than i need. goldtooth sent me this one to test out for free, and it's been rocking for about two months now, with quite a few hard hits on it. about half the weight of the previous one. (from them - the guy saw it on a forum pic, and asked if i'd like to test the new on out. i said sure, and he sent me one. cool.)

rear gripshift, front thumbshifter. it's what i prefer anyhow; them being lighter is just a bonus. thomson x-4 50mm stem is pretty dang light for what it is. the protaper bar isn't too heavy, either.

nothing on the bike save the fork is stupid expensive. nothing super light. just smartly chosen for what/how i ride. a good balance of durabilty/lightness/expense. decently light for what it is, and capable of taking more punishment than i'm going to give it for sure. a few lift days a year, some shuttle rides. lots of tight and twisty, rooty, rocky east coast technical riding that just tends to be hard on bikes.

with the same frame/fork, it could easily shed another pound without losing durability IMO, but it would be running stuff that i'm not willing to pay the cost for. two pounds if i really wanted to get crazy with the money, but then i think i'd start diminishing my returns in terms of durabilty.

keeping the cost down? seat that fits my but and is comfy, and not super heavy? $10 from pricepoint.
avid juicy-5 brakes vs. 7s. getting both my rear shocks new, in boxes, via e-bay for far less than msrp. (plus not needing new ones for this frame - same size and stroke as the old frame, so saved a bit by getting the new frame without a shock.) cultivate a good relationship with your shop, maybe you'll get better deals that way. i did. if you don't have an actual shop or bro-buddy hookup, this is just a smart thing to do. i got the frame for much less than any of the normal web retailers would sell. same deal with my gravity dropper - got it about $40 off msrp by buying from a cool shop, as a repeat customer.

x.9 rear mech and 9.0 sl shifter? on e-bay, nearly new. less than half retail, including shipping.
the thumbie? found a boxload a couple years ago at bikeman in maine (was visiting the in-laws who live nearby...) bought a couple for $10 each.

you can build a light, durable, nice bike for less money than many folks realize. if you take your time, research things, shop sales, closeouts, be willing to do a bit of e-bay or used buying. scrimp initially on some of the stuff that you'll have to replace later anyhow, to spend more on the frame/fork/wheels early on. then get nicer of the other stuff as you need to replace them. learn to do your own wrenching rather than paying a shop to do if for you. sell your old bike crap to help finance the new, if you're sure you won't need it again. it helped having another bike to ride while working on the second.
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