Notices
Mountain Biking Mountain biking is one of the fastest growing sports in the world. Check out this forum to discuss the latest tips, tricks, gear and equipment in the world of mountain biking.

New Tire Question

Old 01-22-08, 03:53 PM
  #1  
PainkillerSPE
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
PainkillerSPE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Charlotte
Posts: 51
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
New Tire Question

I am looking to ditch my stock tires due to low traction issues, and purchasing some Kenda Nevegals to replace them with. The stock tires are 26 X 2.00 so I was gong to just buy the 2.1 size, but I would first like to ask what difference/benefit would it make going with a wider 2.35 size tire versus a 2.1 and if I will incur any fit issues with the larger tire? Any help will be appreciated. Thank you
PainkillerSPE is offline  
Old 01-22-08, 05:37 PM
  #2  
biknbrian
Senior Member
 
biknbrian's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 352

Bikes: BiknBrian brand custom 26 inch commuter trekker, Cannondale F600 Single Speeded MTB, Nashbar Cro-Mo CX, some other bikes and parts that could be made into bikes.

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by PainkillerSPE View Post
I am looking to ditch my stock tires due to low traction issues, and purchasing some Kenda Nevegals to replace them with. The stock tires are 26 X 2.00 so I was gong to just buy the 2.1 size, but I would first like to ask what difference/benefit would it make going with a wider 2.35 size tire versus a 2.1 and if I will incur any fit issues with the larger tire? Any help will be appreciated. Thank you
A wider tire of the same type should have more traction, but higher rolling resitance under most conditions. A 2.35 tire should fit on even a fairly narrow XC rim, but may be more difficult to put on as it my want to pop off the bead until it is mostly installed. Also if you have a narrow rim the tire will develop a more rounded profile lessening traction at a given presseure, but perhaps cornering better. Also if you have a stockpile of tubes that are for slightly smaller tires they should work in a 2.35, but they will be stretched thinner, making them slightly more flat prone in theory.
biknbrian is offline  
Old 01-22-08, 06:48 PM
  #3  
PainkillerSPE
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
PainkillerSPE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Charlotte
Posts: 51
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thank you for your answer. I think I am going to try a size 2.35 and see how they do. I plan on getting larger tube to accommodate the new tire. I was going to ride the stock tires until they had a flat then upgrade, but I can no longer stand the frustration of loosing traction when climbing a slightly wet hill or having the front give way in a turn.
PainkillerSPE is offline  
Old 01-23-08, 09:31 AM
  #4  
apclassic9
Caustic Soccer Mom
 
apclassic9's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Millstone WV
Posts: 1,761
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 11 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
you might also look into the straight 8 tires - Salsa really likes them for and overall tire.
__________________
As with mud, life, too, slides by.
apclassic9 is offline  
Old 01-23-08, 04:13 PM
  #5  
ProFail
Generic Title
 
ProFail's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 1,927

Bikes: 2008 Trek Fuel EX7, 2007 Trek 1600, 2007 Eastern Warthog

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by apclassic9 View Post
you might also look into the straight 8 tires - Salsa really likes them for and overall tire.
I thought Salsa (your kid?) raced a lot....

So, wouldn't that be a fast rolling, low(er) traction tire? Also, I have a set of Nevegals. They're REALLY slow. I'd get one for the rear and keep your stock tire on the front.

EDIT: On the issue of climbing traction, you have to find the balance between the front and rear so you keep traction w/o lifting your front wheel. Only on the muddiest hills will it be impossible to find it.
ProFail is offline  
Old 01-23-08, 04:23 PM
  #6  
BenLi
Hardrocker
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,569
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by ProFail View Post
So, wouldn't that be a fast rolling, low(er) traction tire? Also, I have a set of Nevegals. They're REALLY slow. I'd get one for the rear and keep your stock tire on the front.
If you had to pick one tire out of the two to have more traction, why wouldn't it be the front?
BenLi is offline  
Old 01-23-08, 04:59 PM
  #7  
ProFail
Generic Title
 
ProFail's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 1,927

Bikes: 2008 Trek Fuel EX7, 2007 Trek 1600, 2007 Eastern Warthog

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by BenLi View Post
If you had to pick one tire out of the two to have more traction, why wouldn't it be the front?
Preference. I typically have more trouble keeping my rear tire from slipping on muddy climbs then on muddy turns. then again, my local trails have huge berms on every turn....
ProFail is offline  
Old 01-23-08, 05:39 PM
  #8  
PainkillerSPE
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
PainkillerSPE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Charlotte
Posts: 51
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by ProFail View Post
I thought Salsa (your kid?) raced a lot....

So, wouldn't that be a fast rolling, low(er) traction tire? Also, I have a set of Nevegals. They're REALLY slow. I'd get one for the rear and keep your stock tire on the front.

EDIT: On the issue of climbing traction, you have to find the balance between the front and rear so you keep traction w/o lifting your front wheel. Only on the muddiest hills will it be impossible to find it.
Well I would really like to have a set of the new Kenda Excavators that were featured in Mountain Bike Action. The review said they had a low rolling resistance yet had great traction in hard and soft pack and gives the nevegal a run for its money. So far I have not found a place that carries them .
PainkillerSPE is offline  
Old 01-26-08, 10:26 AM
  #9  
axo0oxa
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 14
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Wide tires with high side walls protect rims nicely if you ride rocks and or do drops. Narrow tires roll better and are lighter. Just because a tire is wider doesn't mean it will substantially give you more traction. Traction is related to tire pressure, the tread pattern and rubber material. If you are a cross country rider who doesn't look for big drops I would go with the narrower tire. If you ride lots of rockey downhills and go for the big drops then I would go for a wider tire with higher sidewalls. I prefer a tire that rolls better since I ride mostly XC, so I look for a light narrow tire with an aggressive tread pattern for the fall and spring (those muddy conditions), and go for a really light high roller in the summer when it is dry and tons of traction.
axo0oxa is offline  
Old 01-26-08, 12:26 PM
  #10  
Bike Lover
Should be riding
 
Bike Lover's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: S.E. Michigan
Posts: 1,602

Bikes: C-dale- moutain, Pedal Force RS- Campy Record, Quiring Ti XTR, Red line Monocog, S E F@r

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
That's the one thing I would point out first. Tire pressures have a lot to do with traction. I don't know what your stock tires are so I don't know if the Nevegals will be better. The Nev's certainly have a rep for being a very grippy. Anyway, getting back to the original point, have you tried letting air out of your tires and decreasing the pressure slightly? A little pressure difference can make a big difference on the feel and grip of a tire. Just go slowly when adjusting PSI as too little can make the tire squirmy.

A side note, if someone is running a different tire front and rear, typically the one with more traction will be placed on the front so that the bike doesn't wash out on you during a turn.
Bike Lover is offline  
Old 01-26-08, 01:01 PM
  #11  
Oleanshoebox
fart knocker
 
Oleanshoebox's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: laying back in the cut
Posts: 1,818

Bikes: Red silver blue, doodie caca poo.

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by PainkillerSPE View Post
Well I would really like to have a set of the new Kenda Excavators that were featured in Mountain Bike Action. The review said they had a low rolling resistance yet had great traction in hard and soft pack and gives the nevegal a run for its money. So far I have not found a place that carries them .
Jenson does.
__________________
Oleanshoebox is offline  
Old 01-26-08, 01:55 PM
  #12  
rankin116
Senior Member
 
rankin116's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: ChapelBorro NC
Posts: 4,126
Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 97 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
^^what, no link?
rankin116 is offline  
Old 01-26-08, 02:48 PM
  #13  
Oleanshoebox
fart knocker
 
Oleanshoebox's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: laying back in the cut
Posts: 1,818

Bikes: Red silver blue, doodie caca poo.

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I am trying to be helpful without being a capitalist *****.
__________________
Oleanshoebox is offline  
Old 01-26-08, 05:48 PM
  #14  
rankin116
Senior Member
 
rankin116's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: ChapelBorro NC
Posts: 4,126
Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 97 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Oleanshoebox View Post
I am trying to be helpful without being a capitalist *****.
I get it, just thought it was a little funny.
rankin116 is offline  
Old 01-26-08, 06:35 PM
  #15  
ProFail
Generic Title
 
ProFail's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 1,927

Bikes: 2008 Trek Fuel EX7, 2007 Trek 1600, 2007 Eastern Warthog

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Oleanshoebox View Post
I am trying to be helpful without being a capitalist *****.
Well, aren't you being a capitalist either way, link or no link, by recommending something that has to be purchased?

Inb4 politics.
ProFail is offline  
Old 01-26-08, 06:56 PM
  #16  
RIC0
PBR Racing
 
RIC0's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Wifes $hit List
Posts: 1,026

Bikes: Santa Cruz and Cannondale

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
nevegals = over rated
RIC0 is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
superduper54
Singlespeed & Fixed Gear
8
07-03-09 01:48 PM
randya
Living Car Free
1
12-14-07 07:48 PM
mirona
Road Cycling
752
08-26-06 04:49 AM
alwaysbefirst
Road Cycling
1
07-25-05 03:26 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.