bmalmquist

Marin again. Eldridge Grade Columbus and Pine Mtn. Check 'em out man. I have an Eldridge frame lying around somewhere . . .

kramnnim

I recently bought an almost-new Dragon frame...love it. The Nashbar frame doesn't seem to look much like it, though. Seatstays are completely different...as are the dropouts, and...a lot of things, actually.

bmalmquist- Are you Ben from the REI in Charlotte? If so...I'm the guy you got the Fisher frame from today...small world, lol.

bmalmquist

Small world indeed. I'm gonna build that up as a rigid flip-flop singlespeed with Sun RhynoLite rims and vintage canti brakes. I can't wait. I need to find someone to anodize all my parts various bright colors.

kellefson

niner

Hopper

Don't talk about things, which from my perspective, it seems you don't fully know. I could get you some polymer composites that have a very high ultimate strength, but with a low yield strength it would not be very good for a bike.

If you continue pushing something past the yield strength it will be permanently mishapen, ie the frame will be out of alignment now. Ultimate stength is the point at which necking occurs which no matter what isn't a good thing to happen.

JackTheLadd

As I understand it the Nashbar 853 (I have one) is made by Maxway, not Kinesis, and is not the same as the Jamis Dragon. It is very, very nice though, and a real deal!

dminor 

I have too many bosses; my frame has fewer.

Get yerself some toooobs - - I'll come over an' weldeum up forya

paul emick

I must have confused the Nashbar frame with some thing else I had looked at. Sorry for the misinformation. If I can remember who had the unbranded Kinesis frame, I'll let you know.

kramnnim

Cool...have you weighed it? Just wondering how they compare...I was kind of disappointed that my Dragon is over 5 lbs... (19", with headset cups)

scelia

The Gunnar Rock Hound is 4.2lbs RAW... It's off to the powder coater tomorrow... Candy Blue...

Frame:


Bottom Bracket:


Head Tube:


Rear Dropout:

Oleanshoebox

leave it raw. that is hot.

kramnnim

What size is it?

scelia

My Gunnar? It's an 17 1/2".

kramnnim

Wow. And here the Dragon's 853 tubing is supposed to be so thin/light. Wonder how much paint weighs...

scelia

The paint on the Gunnar weighed in at 0.2lbs (frame with paint weighed in at 4.4lbs before stripping)... The powder coating will be even less weight and much more durable. Interesting, True Temper tubes in the front triangle are 0.8mm thick at the ends and 0.5mm thick in the center, the Reynolds 853 tubes are 0.9mm at each end and 0.6mm in the center (https://www.truetemper.com/performance_tubing/ox.asp, https://www.reynoldscycles.co.uk/downloads/PARTLIST.pdf). The Reynolds had a yield strength of 180,000-210,000 psi, while the Tru Temper has a yield strength of 185,000 psi. Both are similar, but the Reynolds tubes are thicker. This might account for some of the weight.

Stay tuned for an update Sunday... When I pick up the frame from the powder coaters... Candy Blue with metallic flake.

kramnnim

Cool. Can't wait to see the pics. How do the Rockhound frames compare when it comes to price? I'm assuming they must retail for more than the Dragon's $750ish... (if anyone actually pays full retail...)

scelia

The Rock Hound retails for $800 (https://www.gunnarbikes.com/rockhound.php). One sold on eBay recently for $257. They do not show up often, but deals can be found.

Bike Lover

KHS has one if you're looking for a 29er.

scelia

I picked up the Rock Hound from the Powder Coater today... It sure looks nice. I should have it rebuilt by Friday (I am waiting for some parts in the mail). Here is the frame and some re-assembly...

After unwrapping.


Re-assembly has begun...

mx_599

looks nice!

scelia

Thanks. I am hoping to get some decent pictures in better light soon.

kramnnim

Mmm, that's nice. How much did the powdercoat cost?

scelia

I got the frame chemically stripped for $25 and the powder coating cost $100. Waterford (the parent company of Gunnar) charges $300 to repaint a frame (does include decals).

scelia

Here is another picture that shows the metal flake in the powder coat a little better...

kramnnim

Is there a clearcoat on top? How much less does it weigh than the old paint?

(Sorry...I really don't know anything about powedercoating...I always thought it was the rough, bumpy "paint" on things like some lawn/outdoor furniture, etc...)