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Old 03-31-08, 05:54 PM
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Maximum fork travel on a hardtail?

Whats the maximum amount of fork travel you guys would put on a 18" hardtail? 100mm isn't quite enough for my style of riding, but given that I don't have access to anything over 100mm to try out, i'd like a few opinions. I want to put on about 130mm.
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Old 03-31-08, 06:02 PM
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I would refrain from the Super Monster and keep it to a Monster T or smaller.
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What fork do you have on now? Maybe you just need a higher-quality fork. I went from a 100mm rst to a 100-130mm Rockshox revelation. I usually ride with it at the 100mm setting and haven't bottomed it out yet. Do you have any ideas of what fork you want? What is your budget, and what frame is it going on?
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Originally Posted by dminor View Post
I would refrain from the Super Monster and keep it to a Monster T or smaller.
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I have no idea what a Monster T or a Super Monster is. I think you have the wrong thread, m'man.

As for the fork I'm riding now, I have a Marzocchi Super Comp. way too soft for my weight, i think. Also abit too soft when I go to dabble in small jumps and balancing acts.

I know I need a stiffer fork for sure, but the extra travel would help.

My serious riding gets done at the local ski hill, when it closes down for hte summer. I'm an instructor over there, so me and a few others get to jump the gates and go riding. For the terrain that is at all bikable, 130mm is acceptable. however, the problem is that the only way toget back up is to bike or walk, so a 90-100mm travel would be great for those section,s which was why i have been looking at an adjustable fork.

i have been looknig at the XC 700 SL. The range is perfect, and its an air fork, so it has good adjustablility, but the problem is, i don't know if it can take as much of a beating as the lower-end Super Comp. It has to be able to take moderate speeds (higher than average cross-country flat speeds, but not raging downhill speeds) and small-ish jumps and drops. Basically, will the XC 700 be just as durable as the Super Comp, or do they sacrifice resiliance to terrain for precision and performance?

Its going to be slapped on a Rocky Mountain Trailhead, which is mostly a recreational cross country, but i've been able to hustle out some mild jumping and downhill riding that would probably still be called XC. My budget is about 250-350. I;ve been able to find last years XC 700 within that range.


Theres a detailed summary of my situation.

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Old 03-31-08, 07:17 PM
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I'll let somebody with some more forks under their belt reply with respect to possible forks to try. But for the climbing stuff, lockout might be nice. I'm not sure if any Marz stuff has lockout (probably). That might even be nice for jumps and stuff, as it still provides a little bit of give but is relatively stiff comparatively. Based off what mtbr.com has to say about the xc 700, the price is decent enough. There are some pretty decent forks here: http://www.jensonusa.com/store/sub/1...ks.aspx?s=1712

The Tora u-turn has the lockout I was talking about. You can always go to a lbs and try some of the stuff they have on the store's stock. You might even find a killer deal. I planned on getting my fork off of an online store, but ended up buying it from my lbs for the same price, with free install etc etc. And now the owner nows me and comps me some spokes and junk every once in a while.
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Yea, marzocchi stuff has lockout, and thats definitely something I want on the bike, but the shorter travel also lets you put more weight forward, soyou can go on steeper slopes without wheely-ing onto your back.
I was looking at the Tora as well, and if the XC 700 SL can't take the damage I want it to, I'll definitely go wit the Tora. Otherwise, as far as actual performance goes, the XC 700 is top notch, so if it'll hold out through some light riding that it wasnt meant for, i'll slap down the extra $50

The pike has good adjustment as well, but its heavier than both of them, plus it has that wheel mount that goes through the hub, rather than sitting on top of it, and my hubs dont work with that, as far as i know... unless theres a part i can remove to make them work...
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Yea, marzocchi stuff has lockout, and thats definitely something I want on the bike, but the shorter travel also lets you put more weight forward, soyou can go on steeper slopes without wheely-ing onto your back.
I was looking at the Tora as well, and if the XC 700 SL can't take the damage I want it to, I'll definitely go wit the Tora. Otherwise, as far as actual performance goes, the XC 700 is top notch, so if it'll hold out through some light riding that it wasnt meant for, i'll slap down the extra $50

The pike has good adjustment as well, but its heavier than both of them, plus it has that wheel mount that goes through the hub, rather than sitting on top of it, and my hubs dont work with that, as far as i know... unless theres a part i can remove to make them work...
The Pike is also about 3 times your price range.
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Ahaha, too true, but a man can dream...
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Originally Posted by dminor View Post
I would refrain from the Super Monster and keep it to a Monster T or smaller.


I haven't seen this image in about four years, so it must be time.
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Old 03-31-08, 09:37 PM
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What frame are we talking about?
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Old 04-01-08, 12:04 PM
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Talking about a rocky mountain trailhead, 2007. rocky mountains page is www.bikes.com. its a "sport hardtail".

And that is WAY to much travel on a hardtail. I don't think a hardtail could handle the terrai nthat fork is built for.
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I haven't seen this image in about four years, so it must be time.
I'm sure it has been discussed at great length, but... is that even ridable. I imagine standing over that and my legs giving out after 30 seconds.
 
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I have 125mm on my SC. I think anything up to 140mm is reasonable. Anything more is not.
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Originally Posted by AKRX View Post
And that is WAY to much travel on a hardtail. I don't think a hardtail could handle the terrai nthat fork is built for.
That hardtail (Evil Imperial) could.

The rider, on the other hand...
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I don't even see how weight distribution on that evil imperial would even come close to using all that travel. The angles are all f'ed up. It has to be a joke.. right.. right?
 
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I'm sure it's a concept bike, one of those things companies put out as a gimmick. I'm sure you're not gonna fuind that bike in the park or on the lifts... ever.
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I don't even see how weight distribution on that evil imperial would even come close to using all that travel. The angles are all f'ed up. It has to be a joke.. right.. right?
More that some 14-year-old was in love with the idea of a Super Monster, I think. Pray tell, what 'angles are all f'd up" though? Yes it's outlandish; but don't look at the frame itself - - you have to look at the wheelbase, the relation of the BB to the front and rear axles and all of that in relation to the handlebars.

Case in point: Let's look at a 'mainstream-outlandish' bike, the Brooklyn Machine Works TMX:



Now let's overlay it on our original bike:



Hmmm . . . wheelbase and seat tube angle seem about the same; bottom bracket location is almost identical. Stem location is way-high and way farther back - - chalk that up to the length of a Super Monster over a Monster T - - but it could (concievably) be ridden by a 13-year-old with more money than good sense or stature, eh?

Mind you, I'm not saying it's practical by any means; it's a for-fun photo. What I am saying is, don't make snap jugements of what's totally whack just because it doesn't look at first glance like what you are used to seeing - - which seems to me to be pretty pedestrian, weight-weenie hardware for the most part.
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I'd ride that second one.
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