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Old 01-12-04, 10:46 AM
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Buying time-All mountain-2004-Ideas **********?

Looking for a do it all rig that is a good compromise between weight and strength. Don't buy new bikes often and hope I don't have to either. If it's worth it, I'll pay for it. The new talas system looks very interesting and seems to suit morning climbs and afternoon desents. I'm out there all day and anything's possible.
Two bikes I've looked at a little are the Jamis Dakar XLT 3.0 and the Devinci Bonzai. The Jamis weighs in at 28.25lbs but I`ve got doubts about those $650 crossmax XL's on a bike with freeride potential? The Devinci has it beefed up where it counts but I can't get any info on weight.
5' 11'' 180lbs Mostly N.E. USA and S.E. Canada but travel a lot.
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One Word: Specialized Enduro
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Buget?

Sounds like you're looking for what we used to call a "Mountain Bike". Nowadays, it's either a XC, FR, DH, DS, Urban, or Trailbike!

I'd stick with something with 4"+ travel front and rear, and in the 28 to 30 lb. range.

K2's Tirade is a nice bike, Haro's Extreme is inexpensive, Specialized probably has the most selection with their SX Enduro line and the Epic if the Inertia shock technology interests you. Plus their FSR's are great all around bikes.
Giant has their VT's, but I like the AC's better. Trek has the Liquid (I don't like Trek's or Gary Fisher's). If you want more custom (boutique) go with a bike like mine an Intense Uzzi which is a custom FSR basically!

The new Santa Cruz Blur or Intense Spyder would be my choice of bike if I were doing more XC type epic trailrides. Intense is introducing their new VPP bike with 5.5" of travel. (Spyder with more travel and beefier frame).

I've always like Yeti's. Their AS-R or Kokopelli are great all around bikes.

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The Enduro is a great bike, and it isn't too pricey. There are lots of spec levels. Check out their website. I have an Enduro, and it's GREAT! It's about 29 lbs., and it is nimble feeling coming down the hiil. Yet it absorbs drops, hucks, ect. well. It wheelies well too.
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I just had an opportunity to check out the Enduros and they're all that and a Gu pack to boot!.

Anybody want to buy a Kidney?
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For an all around bike, I'd have to also go with the Enduro.

The Expert level Enduro is the one to get. Fox Talus upfront.

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Just for a change of pace...Kona Coiler or Kona Dawg...sweet bikes and sweet rides...
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Rocky Mountain Slayer

well,

last week i bought a RM Slayer - i got it used - the year-end 2003 model which is the 2003 with some of the 2004 setup (Fox Vanilla RLC fork)

it is awesome!

it is somewhat comparable to the Specialized Enduro (i didn't actually test-ride the new Enduro, but have ridden some of the old ones, like Specialized as i ride a '02 FSR XC and had been thinking of the Enduro before i ran across the Slayer), with following differences:
1) RM frame is stronger and more robust (was designed as a Freeride bike back when Freeride still meant riding uphill too "all-mountain")
2) can lower seat ALL the way down

* the Slayer suspension design is basically the same as the RM Element, just with more travel.

anyhow, my Slayer has 125mm front/rear (Fox Float RL rear), with Shimano Deore discs and LX/XT and with semi-agrresive tires weighs just under 30lbs...

the geometry is All-Mountain and it climbs as well as it descends...

although the Enduro is also good. i also spec compared the RM to the Stinky Dawg which is a little more robust but also weighs more (i think in the 32-34 lb range if i remeber right)
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Thanks fellas. I`ll start diggin deeper.
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Originally Posted by T Bird
Thanks fellas. I`ll start diggin deeper.
I'm in the same boat as you are(were??) in NOW...Want a new rig but have got to pick from the HUGE variety out there now...

I've looked at EVERYTHING...from Stumpjumpers to Litespeeds to Jamis...I just want a killer trailbike...I'm not hucking, freeriding...whatever it's called now...I just ride...

I've weighed most all the factors: weight, geometry, suspension, susp. design...I even figured budget. There's more than what I've mentioned, but overall it has come down to who can I buy it from, and how good will it do it all...

At 210-215 and 6'3, I need a pretty strong ride. I've basically narrowed it down to a RM Slayer 70. Killer components, strong frame, good suspension designs, nice geometry.

Like I see mentioned on this board all the time, everyone recommends Specialized...and they do have killer bikes...I seriously considered a Stumpjumper...the Enduro just didn't interest (I've rode my buddy's and it just didn't work for me)...but when it came down to how long my money will last and what I'm gonna be riding...right now my check is made out to RM...
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You can't loose with the slayer. Ironically when that first came out it was a freeride bike. The bikers far surpased what it could handle so it is now an all mountain. Either way killer frame.
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Old 05-17-04, 10:54 AM
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Merlin,Trek. and C-Dale
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Enduro all the way, or Coiler,

for a more specialized approach i would also check the banshee chaparal.
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I rode a K2 Lithium last weekend. Very nice bike, especially for the money $1,300 for a nice set-up!

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Originally Posted by Edwards
One Word: Specialized Enduro
thats two words????
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I bought a '04 Haro Extreme X2 about 2 months ago. I like it, although it weighs about 35 lbs. I am used to my DH bikes weighing around 30 lbs., so it seems like a tank, although it's a real nice bike (other than the fork, which I'm adding an air pre-stage to). It cost me $940 at my LBS (Carolina Fatz). Pretty nice for the money I must add...

Here's a pic of how it looked when I 1st bougt it. I've added alot of "stuff" since then....
 
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Hey HaroX2, err I mean Xtreme Biker, I've been to Carolina Fatz, cool little shop!

BTW, I think your bike pee'd on the ground!

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Definelty cool bike Extreme Biker. Just wondering, are those rims Sun Ringle DW's?

My friend has a 2001 Haro EX 2 and its a worthy all mountain bike but then, it doesn't look as nice as yours.
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Hey haro...what dh bikes weight 30 pounds...most pros weight in over 40 and the high end (really high end) weight 36 at the bottom end. Dang my trail bike (dually) weighs 44 pounds... and my ht weight 34 pounds...
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Hey haro...what dh bikes weight 30 pounds...most pros weight in over 40 and the high end (really high end) weight 36 at the bottom end. Dang my trail bike (dually) weighs 44 pounds... and my ht weight 34 pounds...
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My '99 K2 Flyin' Monkey weighs exactly 30 lbs. with very similar set-up to my Haro (fender, pedals, fork boots, etc.) and my '97 K2 Beast weighs 28 lbs. (also with same items on it). They both have dual crown, Girvin Chubby LT forks, and Noleen rear shocks. Both of them are "Killer" bikes, but I wasn't able to use the 8" Hayes HFX-9 brakes I had bought since the frames' & forks' disc mount holes weren't to the 2000+ ISO standard. The holes weren't spaced correctly to fit today's disc brakes....

I still ride them, as they also have hydraulic brakes, and 5" front/rear travel. The brakes are Magura HS11 & HS22's. I guess you could say I just wanted a newer bike.
 
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In either case...stop complaining..those bikes are light ...
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In either case...stop complaining..those bikes are light ...
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I actually enjoy them just as much as my brand new bike.... I just wish the Hayes disc's would've fit them. They are more fun to climb, but the Haro is more fun downhill. I can get faster into the corners with the discs & they stay clean through-out the ride, so they stop everytime....

As for the original post, I would definitely recommend K2 & Haro bikes!
 
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Originally Posted by nathank
well,

last week i bought a RM Slayer - i got it used - the year-end 2003 model which is the 2003 with some of the 2004 setup (Fox Vanilla RLC fork)

it is awesome!

it is somewhat comparable to the Specialized Enduro (i didn't actually test-ride the new Enduro, but have ridden some of the old ones, like Specialized as i ride a '02 FSR XC and had been thinking of the Enduro before i ran across the Slayer), with following differences:
1) RM frame is stronger and more robust (was designed as a Freeride bike back when Freeride still meant riding uphill too "all-mountain")
2) can lower seat ALL the way down

* the Slayer suspension design is basically the same as the RM Element, just with more travel.

anyhow, my Slayer has 125mm front/rear (Fox Float RL rear), with Shimano Deore discs and LX/XT and with semi-agrresive tires weighs just under 30lbs...

the geometry is All-Mountain and it climbs as well as it descends...

although the Enduro is also good. i also spec compared the RM to the Stinky Dawg which is a little more robust but also weighs more (i think in the 32-34 lb range if i remeber right)


Hey, I have a 2003 RM Slayer I'm trying to sell. Its in very excellent condition and everything works perfectly. I hate selling it but need the cash. I have all the info on the bike plus a picture if you are interested. hit me up awilson1010@aol.com
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